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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:15 am 
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hi all, just a quick question, is it a simple enough task (and cheap enough) to fit rear power windows to my futura? or would it get tricky such as major wiring loom changes/ecu/body module change?

my idea is to get all the window regs/door trim bits from pick-a-part which should be cheap enough.
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:01 pm 
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yep simple as and if you looked round a tad might even find a techo document somewhere showing you how to complete the job.

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:04 pm 
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AFAIK.

Rear window wiring will not be there. Simplest way to get this will be adding rear fairmont door looms. To get power to these, you could add the wires from the central switch, or change the body loom. Id probably just add the wires.

The console switch will need to be changed, of course.

The regs will obviously swap straight in. Bem is fine.

You have the option of using fairmont door trims, but obviously this wont match.

What I would do is obtain the fairmont rear trims, then swap the big door handles and switch onto the futura trims. Not sure how you would cover up the winder hole though.

The fabric piece could be fixed by cutting two front fabric pieces to shape and using the factory front fabric wrapped on them.

The big handle may even cover the factory hole, im not sure.

Otherwise, you can just add the fairmont trims all round to match.
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:23 pm 
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Or buy a fairmont.

This is not overly difficult but can be a time consuming task. As far as I know the futura has the fairmont loom already so wiring should be a cinch. Tony (Fiend) reckons he didnt have to do a lot of wiring. I am swapping the whole loom from my fairmont wreck so as to get it all in one hit.

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:56 pm 
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What I would do is obtain the fairmont rear trims, then swap the big door handles and switch onto the futura trims. Not sure how you would cover up the winder hole though.

There's also the issue of the rear-door armrests in the Futura (and GLi). They're part of the whole door trim and can't be detached. See pic.

You could always rat more parts from the Fairmont trims but will it all match with the Futura front doors? Fairmont trims have velour on them.

 

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:33 pm 
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All you really need to get it working is the rear door looms, rear window switches, and a new 4 window console switch assembly - as well as the 2 rear window regs by the way!

Very simple job IMO, the body loom is already Fairmont spec, and the plug for the new rear door looms will be sitting in the rear door jam in the B pillar.

As far as door trims go, you could attempt to cover up the winder hole with the rear switches, or just get some Fairmont door trims all round to match.
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:40 pm 
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cool

trims are no issue, i would get velour fairmont trims with armrests, and put my futura inserts back in with holes for switch/armrest (or actually pick up a second pair of rear inserts, so i have an untouched spare set)

so.
-need cup holder with four switches, that plugs in same as two switch set up, no issue?

-trims sorted.

-regs should plug straight in, just need to find the plug?
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:08 am 
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yeah go to pick a part and get the looms from an NA, there are plenty of them.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:26 pm 
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EA-ED/NA/NC etc plugs in the rear door pillar differ to the EF/EL ones.

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:38 am 
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So now you should just need the rear door looms from a fairmont etc. Or add the wiring to yours.
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:01 pm 
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so what is involved in removing a fairmont loom and installing it in my futura? i can get one from pick-a-part, but not sur ehow to go about it
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:08 pm 
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adding the wires is easier and cheaper if u want bring ur car over and ill do it for ya
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:21 pm 
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how exactly do you add the wires then? fairmonts at pick-a-part have the door looms. what part do i remove, and how do i join them in?
thanks again for the help.

i bought i nice set of velour trims for it and i just have to organise buttons for the cupholder and doors and the motors.
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:27 pm 
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if u dont grab the looms just get some wire from jaycar theres a wiring diagram in the technical document section
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:42 pm 
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i can't find the wiring document
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