Monroe do make a shortened shock now. They are the GT Sports.

See links>>> http://www.monroe.com.au/products/gt-sport.html

http://www.monroe.com.au/uploads/pdfs/G ... 281%29.pdf

my bad. i'll just crawl back under my rock now.

hi i just got my suspension done by pedders yesterday.
they will measure your car and discuss what you want and whats leagal.
my car was lowered from tickford front ,king lows rear
i went with sports ryder cant remember what spring size but they were different front to back.
the car has a 2.5 cm rake from front to back for looks first and imo launch.
the lowest part of my car is the center muffler which is bang on 10cm.
all you need is a 30% deposit and say you have a job for interest free monthly repayments.
cost $1137 with %10 nrma member discount

 

 

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So that was supply springs and shocks only? Could have saved hundreds doing it yourself as springs are only around $250 a full set and shortened shocks from about $370 full set. Also to obtain a correct wheel alignment a camber kit starts at about $120 full set so a total of about $740 and about 3 hrs of time plus wheel alignment.

all installed spring ,shocks ,struts
took 3 hours saved heaps of stuff around plus i only had 500 bucks
i am chuffed and so is teh car
yeah you can get kits for 600 and whatever and do it yourself
i am no mechanic lol

I had some pedders gasryder rear shocks (leaked), and now i have come upon some sportsryder fronts, and in both cases they are harsh, they have too much compression valving.

I think most of the $$ in the pedders job is in the
cost of the shocks. They are fairly expensive, going
from the quotes I have had for a BA....
ie supply only sports ryders, fronts $250 each, rears $185 each !!!

Anyway, car looks good there mystro......well done.

Hey All,

I did the silly thing of cutting the standard springs (2 coils off) and kept standard shockers
it looked heaps better than stock 4x4 look
I had really bad bouncing issues going down the highway. (was like a rodeo bull)

so i had enough and fitted Monroe GT Sports.
they were shorter and a little firmer. fun to fit in 44" deg,

i have been for a good 100km drive and have noticed it a little bit better, but dont really feel its fixed my bouncing issue 100%, any idears on spring choice???

Will new springs help. i like hard firm break your back style suspension not this floaty bouncy stuff.

Any info would be muchly appreciated

Cheers
Mike

As long as your ride height is okay, i.e. not too low, the next step is to make an estimate of the increase in spring rate. If say the OE coils had 8 turns as std, and you took two off, you now have a rate approx. 8/6 = 33% more than what it was before. If so that would be okay for a 1.5" lowering, but maybe not enough for a 2" lowering.

It sounds like you are concerned your springs are now too stiff. Maybe so. Or maybe they are not stiff enough and you are bottoming out? Bump stops have a high rate and therefore rebound quickly, and if things are really bad you can get tyre squash, which is a higher rate again and there is no damping for when they rebound. If the car is floaty without hitting the bump stops the coils are indeed too stiff for the shocks, or put another way the shocks are not firm enough for the coils.

Thanks relaxed_diplomacy ,

I think its about 2" lower now, its not really floaty when driving just bouncey over pot holes and bumps in the road. it doesnt sound like its bottoming out, but not 100%.
i am thinking of fitting King Springs superlows as it should stay at the same height with these new shockers, as i have seen Monroe and king Springs worked together to design them.

Do you think its worth a shot???

Cheers
Mike

yeah, cut springs = bouncy. Different parts of the spring compress at different rates, you've probably chopped out some of the lower rate.

haven't you seen the fully hektik 200sx's getting about with cut springs? they must handle like my nanna's push frame

Ha Ha Ha, Nana's push frame, i like that ,
yeah thats what i was thinking, ill just bite the bullet and pull it all apart again

Thanks for your input, it's been bugging me so bad, pregnant wife wont ride in my car, Too bumpy

Cheers
Mike

I think the EL has linear rate coils, and even if coils with a so called "progressive rate" are fitted, that is only the case if the soft part of the coil becomes compressed solid partway through the suspension's movement.

There is nothing wrong with cut coils as long as its been done properly and the resultant rate is appropriate to the height. You just need to be mindful of a number of key areas.

Another way you can assess if your coils are too strong for your shocks is to focus in on what happens after a bump, like say a speed hump or spoon drain. Its easier if you are going slowish because then you have more time to make your assessment. If the car jerks upwards after the bump, that means the coil is extending quickly without being sufficiently constrained by the shock absorber. Its not a nice feeling.

People tend to think softer shocks equal a softer ride but that is only the case up to a certain point, and in some cases it isn't the case at all.

In your case mike either you've gone too low (my guess, you should have done height measurements), the coils are too soft and you're bottoming out, or they are too stiff for your shocks (generating excess rebound speeds) and/or too stiff for your chassis (generating excess NVH).

Having just moved from an EB to an EL and having looked into some of the changes to the chassis, i can say the EL has noticeably higher rigidity and NVH suppression. The changes are worth the extra weight, in my view.

Not sure, but I know boge and durashock parts have the same part numbers and come from the same suppliers

My King Superlows + Monroe GT Sport shocks combination cut out heaps of bounce.

Superlows + Standard shocks = lots of bounce for me.

I think I said this earlier but with the standard shocks and superlows the rear of the car would bounce three times when given a solid push down (when standing outside of the parked car).

New shocks cut that down to one. It only just goes past bouncing straight back.

This translates to a huge difference when going over speed bumps and road bumps. Especially at high speeds.


Also, another huge improvement is how the car feels with passengers in the back. Previously the car felt like absolute bollocks with more than 60kgs in the back of the car, especially in the boot. I hated driving people around because the car felt so horrifically s**t to drive. Now it feels fine, even with two people that would weigh about 150KG combined.

Basically, I quite like my King springs and they work well with the Monroe GT Ss