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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:47 pm 
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is it just me or is this just going a tad to far??? I would source a M90 instead of trying to get the M112 to suit...... there is alot of work going on here to even make this fit......

just my 5cents but still an awsome build......


Grantad the M112 is from the 5.0 liter mustang Jim. But its not going to be any easier to suit the M90 to the BBM, its a tad smaller but the same mods will be needed to do it with the M90.

I know you are referring to power output rather than ease of installation when saying a tad too far. But I think a tad too far is the fact that Smithy is going to put a factory BA turbo setup on this aswell.
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:51 pm 
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Ok I'v got the butterfly runner out, however when i take it in to get the top manifold made up will i need them to weld up the holes where the runner went? (view photos) Or do i put the runner back in minus the butterfly valves? Thanks for your help so far Josh.


my uncle workshop might be able to help with the, holde there smithy



Thanks mitch, no rush but if you get a quote off him pm us and ill organise time and place to drop it off to him. thanks.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:51 pm 
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M90's get pushed to their limits on modified 3.8's
given the amount of head flow from DOHC BA motors, M112 is perfectly acceptable.


Im thinking of this for my AU engine mate. Is there not enough head flow in the AU head or will it still be alright.

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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:12 pm 
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you only want it for low down boost anyway then the turbs will take over...... M90's have been adapted in the past on AU donks (bye bye aircon) the M90 runs out of puff but push that to the limit come to 3-3500rpm and it would be useless after that.... then hello turbs lets do ya thing!!!

 

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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:19 pm 
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you only want it for low down boost anyway then the turbs will take over...... M90's have been adapted in the past on AU donks (bye bye aircon) the M90 runs out of puff but push that to the limit come to 3-3500rpm and it would be useless after that.... then hello turbs lets do ya thing!!!


If people have done this before and have placed it where the aircon is, what manifold have they used?

Smithy I think with this setup you are working on you will need an extra idler pulley. Bare with me Ill see if I can find a diagram.

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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:38 pm 
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why not tap that hole on the top half of the BBM and screw in a grub screw with a bit of loctite or hydraulic sealant on it. Then if you don't want to see the grub screw you could fill in the head with a bit of metl mend. By the way I love this thread the work you've put into this thing is incredible.
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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:58 pm 
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Ok Smithy,

Bare in mind this is not to scale....

This is kind of what the belt setup will look like.

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My concern is there might not be enough belt contact on the aircon.

This setup will ensure you get good belt contact on both aircon and M112.

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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:03 pm 
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why not tap that hole on the top half of the BBM and screw in a grub screw with a bit of loctite or hydraulic sealant on it. Then if you don't want to see the grub screw you could fill in the head with a bit of metl mend. By the way I love this thread the work you've put into this thing is incredible.
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That is possible mate, But I would not trust loctite holding a grub screw in there with the presure in the manifold once the charger is running.

Get it TIG welded, but the gasket face will need a few thou taken off to make sure its still parallel after its done
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:09 pm 
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This setup will ensure you get good belt contact on both aircon and M112.

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i'd concentrate on getting as much wrap on the blower pulley as possible, with the 6rib belt you are going to need it.
over 180deg wrap is what you want.

so is this going to be twincharged, or just the M112?

 

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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:15 pm 
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This setup will ensure you get good belt contact on both aircon and M112.

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i'd concentrate on getting as much wrap on the blower pulley as possible, with the 6rib belt you are going to need it.
over 180deg wrap is what you want.

so is this going to be twincharged, or just the M112?


So basically he needs the idler in my mspaint pic to be higher to give that extra contact.
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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:25 pm 
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Thanks for the pic josh, When the time comes i could easily mount a bracket with an extra idlea pulley off the timing chain cover (view pic).

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Itll just be single charged steady ed.

 

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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:34 pm 
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Thanks for the pic josh, When the time comes i could easily mount a bracket with an extra idlea pulley off the timing chain cover (view pic).

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Itll just be single charged steady ed.



Yeah that will work mate.

Sorry I thought you planned to use the turbo aswell, a few pages ago you mentioned buying a turbo if I remember correctly.
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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:37 pm 
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O yep turbo will still be going on, sorry i thaught steady ed was asking if there was going to be 2 m112, must have miss read. yeah turbo and charged :D something a little different.

 

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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:02 pm 
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i think being a pd charger it will suffer belt slip at lower rpm??

like steady ed said you might need as much wrap around the blower pulley as possable..

something more like this..??

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 Post subject: Re: The hybrid EB build, DOHC xr6, ba interior and a el xr front
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:11 pm 
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I think you might be onto something there Troy, because in reality the M112 pulley will be higher up than how I placed it in the pic.
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