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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: >2103 728 04 61 03 07 0C 00 00 00 still have police mode on You certainly do. And you have ABS and Brakefail via CAN turned on, so obviously have a Bosch 8.0 Module. But interestingly you don't have DSC, just TCM. The bit that we suspect does shift-alert is 0 on yours. Awesome. So far it's mapping up. However, even with that bit set, only certain 'versions' or 'part prefixes' seem to do the alert. I've tried a BAXR8 and a BFXR6T and those two don't do it. It would be interesting to change the Shift Alert bit on yours to see if you can trigger it in sports-shift mode on your car.... (MSN me if you're keen to give it a try.) Yeah FPV's didn't get DSC (they said it was too expensive to do up new calibrations for 18" and 19" wheels with 4 and 6 pot brakes). FG FPV's will get DSC. So what bit (command) do I need to run to tun the shift alert on. Will give it a try.
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Datamine has confirmed that we have found the Shift Alert bit. It's the one we've been suspecting all along - bit 11.
However, we don't know where the actual RPM value that triggers the Alert is stored. And it doesn't appear to work on anything other than an FPV cluster. Lukeyson |
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Having had it for a few days now. It seems the actual noise is coming from the ICC (like the various beeps from the trip computer, e.g. fuel low)
So maybe having the right ICC is required (all BF FPV's get the premium ICC) as well as enabling the cluster to send the 'trigger'.
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Coming from the ICC? You mean the main speakers?
I don't think there's a speaker in the ICC at all. Just in the cluster, in the main body connected to the ICC, and in the Park Aid Module. I take it you've been revving the bung hole out of your car since the other day just to hear the alert right? lukeyson |
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Between the induction noise up front and the exhaust note out back, the little chime noise doesn't stand a chance. Plus with those two, I don't need any other excuses.
Literally, it's too quite for WOT acceleration. As far as I can tell it's not coming from the speakers - impossible in my car, the ICC is complete disconnected stereo wise (full after market job thank you). The sound definitely sounds like it's coming from the ICC. I'll keep listening for it, see if I can confirm.
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Success!
I have just verified in the lab that I can now (1) enable or disable Cruise Control, (2) add or remove support for Traction Control in the PCM (If you want to convert from 3Ch to 4Ch ABS that is - requires changing the module and brake lines), (3) change the wheel/tyre size (4) Change the axle ratio and (5) flash your PCM to the latest version while we're at it! There's even some octane Adjust/Spark-retard setting in there that I can set - which I haven't toyed with for the moment. If you have a custom tune, however, I can't help. This is all just Factory stuff. Today is a good day. Lukeyson |
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congrats.
Can you read the contents of the PCM ? And can all of the above (with exception to writing I guess) be access with a regular ELM type device.
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On a BA - yes.
On a BF - not yet. With an ELM. Read as above. Write - not sure if it's fast enough, but with the right software and the FEPS breakout cable I've got, then it's technically possible, yeah. Luke |
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Does that mean I need to start coding a new program
Matt
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{USERNAME} wrote: I just had 'barrel' ask me to clarify the Police Mode setting.
The Offsets for writing to the ODO are: 00 = ODO 01 = Body/Fuel - and maybe more. The data in here is very cryptic and we've been working for awhile to decode it without much luck. 02 = Police Mode 'Offset' for fine tuning the digital speedo (usually 00) 03 = A bunch of settings. I'll focus on this. To write by offset remember that it's 3B. So go back to the original post for setting up an ELM to write to the IC. For offset 03, low series clusters use 1 byte, and high series clusters are 2 bytes. Byte 1: Bit0 = Seatbelt Reminder Bit1 = TCM Jewel Bit2 = Police Mode Bit3 = May be the Shift Alert - but not sure yet Bute 2: Bit0 = HDC Jewel Bit1 = DSC Jewel. So if you have a low series cluster, when you read offset 03 you type '2103' and you should see something like: 727 03 61 03 03 It''s the last byte we're interested in here. A high series cluster with DSC on and TC off may look like: 727 04 61 03 01 0E It's the last 2 bytes we're interested in. 03 HEX = 11 Binary (Or 00000011). 01 HEX = 1 Binary (0000001), 0E HEX = 1110 Binary (00001110) (Note: I don't yet know what the bits 2 and 3 do yet in the high series Byte. ) Bit 0 is LSB - or Least Significant Bit - and is the rightmost bit. To enable Police Mode you need bit 2 set to 1, so thats 00000111, or 07 Hex. So you write this as: 3B0307 for low or 3B03050E for high Hope this helps. Luke Hi mate sorry to bother you but i am having a hard time getting head around this i have a BA falcon RTV ute and have managed to get police mode on with TC jewel on also can turn police mode off but for life of me cant get TC jewel to turn off either have a high series cluster trying to figure command to turn both TC jewel off and police mode, |
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eg. read your settings.
2103 returns: 727 03 61 03 03 Take the 2nd last byte, here 03. decode it into 0 (1) - seatbelt reminder 1 (2) - TC (everything else is off) 2 (4) - Police Mode If all you want is the seatbelt reminder left on. Write back 01: 3B030103 Seatbelt + Police would be 05. Everything off 00. etc. (the above is for a high series cluster.
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I had someone ask me in another thread about buying an ELM327 tool and have just copied it here.
There are 2 x things you want to check with an ELM327 USB tool. (1) That is uses the v1.2a chip. Earlier versions can't go faster than 38.4kbps. The 1.2a on USB can go up to 500kbps. (2) It uses the FTDI USB chipset. This listing says both of these: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Elm327-USB-CAN-O ... dZViewItem I have another USB Scantool device (A j2534, not an ELM) that is sensitive to cable length at only 5m. I had trouble with a dumb extension cable and had to get a repeater. The USB repeaters regenerate the signal rather than just letting it attenuate over the length of the cable - but they are a bit more expensive. It depends on the sensitivity of the USB device, so all I can suggest is the 'suck it and see' approach. 5M USB M/F Dumb Cable: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/USB-2-0-Male-to- ... dZViewItem 5M USB M/F Active Repeater Cable: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/USB-2-0-1-0-Exte ... dZViewItem This last one is also interesting - it uses an Ethernet cable to extend the USB. It says it's a repeater, but it looks to me more like it's just an extender. I'm thinking about giving this a go myself, but if anyone else has any experience with one of these it would be good to get some feedback. 5M USB M/F Cable ends with Cat5 Intermediate: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/USB-HUB-Extender ... dZViewItem Lukeyson |
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{USERNAME} wrote: Hi mate sorry to bother you but i am having a hard time getting head around this i have a BA falcon RTV ute and have managed to get police mode on with TC jewel on also can turn police mode off but for life of me cant get TC jewel to turn off either have a high series cluster trying to figure command to turn both TC jewel off and police mode,
Might be easiest if you type the following into an ELM via Hypterterm while connected to your car with the ignition on, give us the response, tell us what you want to do, and we can tell you what command to enter. We're assuming you've got a good connection to the elm (correct com port and speed settings). atsp6 atsh720 2103 ...and then tell us the output from the 2103 query. Luke |
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What software is being used to pull the codes from the PCM???
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Smack bang in the middle of the previous post is a reference to Windows Hyperterm - it's in programs - Accessories - Communications on most machines. If it's not there it hasn't been installed, so you need to go to the control panel and Add/Remove programs, Add/Remove Windows Components.
We also discussed Hyperterm quite a few pages back. Any Serial based Terminal Emulator software will do. Lukeyson |
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