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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:39 pm 
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Iphones/ipads can't use the bluetooth ones.. they are wifi only due to licensing or something I believe..
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:40 pm 
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Iphones/ipads can't use the bluetooth ones.. they are wifi only due to licensing or something I believe..
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3. Using an android tablet or phone and a 12 dollar bluetooth elm reader, I have now changed two clusters to Police mode (one high and one low), and changed two HIMs to dual zone mode. So you don't need a laptop, you can use a hyperterminal app on android to do the same job over bluetooth.

4. In the hyperterminal's settings, no matter which one or what platform. you will have to mess with the newline settings.. In Putty I think you have to choose "make LF after CR implicit" to get it to work as expected.


hello
just wondering Whats the codes or inputs are to change the Him to duelzone?

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:32 am 
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I have been search for how the BA Falcon PCM if needed to be replaced with another unit how to pair it up to the car BCM.

I have an elm327 usb adapter which shows me faults and engine data which is excellent works great.

The one mentioned here in forum post is the Toyota MINI VCI J2534 device for Toyota TIS Techstream. I see these on ebay are they able to be used on a ba ford to program a new pcm if needed would this work using the motorcraftservice software.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:41 pm 
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Robert_au wrote:
frankieh wrote:

3. Using an android tablet or phone and a 12 dollar bluetooth elm reader, I have now changed two clusters to Police mode (one high and one low), and changed two HIMs to dual zone mode. So you don't need a laptop, you can use a hyperterminal app on android to do the same job over bluetooth.

4. In the hyperterminal's settings, no matter which one or what platform. you will have to mess with the newline settings.. In Putty I think you have to choose "make LF after CR implicit" to get it to work as expected.


hello
just wondering Whats the codes or inputs are to change the Him to duelzone?


I've Read the 39 pages really not much usable info and it's scattered.
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 Post subject: Re: BA-BF-SX-SY - Scantool Fun
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:58 pm 
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Robert_au wrote:
frankieh wrote:

3. Using an android tablet or phone and a 12 dollar bluetooth elm reader, I have now changed two clusters to Police mode (one high and one low), and changed two HIMs to dual zone mode. So you don't need a laptop, you can use a hyperterminal app on android to do the same job over bluetooth.

4. In the hyperterminal's settings, no matter which one or what platform. you will have to mess with the newline settings.. In Putty I think you have to choose "make LF after CR implicit" to get it to work as expected.


hello
just wondering Whats the codes or inputs are to change the Him to duelzone?


I've Read the 39 pages really not much usable info and it's scattered.


Sure is scattered, i have read this about 40 times myself and was at about the 32 time i found the info for police mode. to the point ill just let the ppl doing the reprogramming, do the HIM while there at it.

Have also read Lukisons DZ and interior conversion threads countless times.

Robert

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:40 pm 
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I actually have that info saved somewhere.. will try to dig it up. I've done it a few times now.. most of the time it works flawlessly, once the traction control light came on (on a car without it) but was easy enough to fix.
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:15 pm 
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ok folks,

Here is the single to dual zone details from Lukeysons post on the subject.

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You need to set the protocol to 11 bit CAN, 512k. atsp6 I think is what you want. The 'a' you mentioned above leaves the ELM in auto mode and should do the same thing, but if it doesn't find 11 bit can 512, it will start looking for the PCM on other protocols. SO in this case either would work.

The HIM responds to messages with a CAN header of 733.

Then you need to use a mode 3B command to program the HIM, which according to J2190 is 'write by data block'.

In this case the HIM mode is block 00. And the values are:

0F - Heater only mode
55 - Manual Climate Control
AA - Auto Climate Control.

So setting a HIM to Manual would be:

ATSP6
ATSH733
3B 00 55

To see that this value is written correct, you do a mode 21 read of block 00. Which is simply

21 00

When you issue a command to header 733, expect to get a response message with a header of 738. SO the purpose of doing the ath1 command is to turn headers on so in the response you can see the 738 bit.

Finally, if the mode 21 lookup shows the value written correctly, you may need to completely power off to have the value take effect. This may even include disconnecting the battery.....


Lukeyson


have fun.

cheers

Frank
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:11 pm 
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frankieh wrote:
ok folks,

Here is the single to dual zone details from Lukeysons post on the subject.

Quote:
You need to set the protocol to 11 bit CAN, 512k. atsp6 I think is what you want. The 'a' you mentioned above leaves the ELM in auto mode and should do the same thing, but if it doesn't find 11 bit can 512, it will start looking for the PCM on other protocols. SO in this case either would work.

The HIM responds to messages with a CAN header of 733.

Then you need to use a mode 3B command to program the HIM, which according to J2190 is 'write by data block'.

In this case the HIM mode is block 00. And the values are:

0F - Heater only mode
55 - Manual Climate Control
AA - Auto Climate Control.

So setting a HIM to Manual would be:

ATSP6
ATSH733
3B 00 55

To see that this value is written correct, you do a mode 21 read of block 00. Which is simply

21 00

When you issue a command to header 733, expect to get a response message with a header of 738. SO the purpose of doing the ath1 command is to turn headers on so in the response you can see the 738 bit.

Finally, if the mode 21 lookup shows the value written correctly, you may need to completely power off to have the value take effect. This may even include disconnecting the battery.....


Lukeyson


have fun.

cheers

Frank



Thank-you frank might have a look tomorrow and see how i go

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:08 pm 
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I just did it again yesterday using my android phone and a 3 dollar bluetooth odb2 reader (and an app called SEN) UPDATE. the app name is SENA BTERM and it's mint for this stuff. (Android only I'm afraid)

works great.

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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:32 pm 
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I just did it again yesterday using my android phone and a 3 dollar bluetooth odb2 reader (and an app called SEN)

works great.


done it this morning myself, changed to DZ, I did have to disconnect trhe battery to make the change take effect, then changed it back using the laptop and blue-tooth elm327

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:11 pm 
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using my android phone and a 3 dollar bluetooth odb2 reader (and an app called SEN)


Can you link me to SEN on Google Play etc?

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:21 pm 
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Macca wrote:
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using my android phone and a 3 dollar bluetooth odb2 reader (and an app called SEN)


Can you link me to SEN on Google Play etc?



sorry, that should have been SENA...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... sena.bterm


handy app that one.. one thing you need to do is go into the settings and change the return to CR & LF so it displays properly, but that may not be necessary anymore as the app has changed a lot lately.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:13 pm 
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Hi all
I am struggling to receive data from my him or cluster

Atsp6
Atdp
Atsh733
21 00
These work but as soonas I type 2100 it comes back with "no data"
Can anyone help.
Thank you
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:14 pm 
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Hi all
I am struggling to receive data from my him or cluster

Atsp6
Atdp
Atsh733
21 00
These work but as soonas I type 2100 it comes back with "no data"
Can anyone help.
Thank you
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