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Sexyr6 heres one for you how many of these now im speaking 94/95 fairmont ecu will redline with every gear change fitted with a auto and just keep going till it runs out of leggs
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Came across a couple of interesting V8 ECU's this week. I couldn't find any references to them on the www or any of my usual sources
4DEB = V8 auto EEC5 EF1 Fairmont Ghia. It was a very early ecu, dated April 1994. Someone had changed the box code to 4DED with a black pen. When I dumped the code, there were no usual code identifiers around hex address 19F00 and no "Copyright Ford Motor Co." around hex address 19F60. Perhaps this was some pre-release ecu that got used in a production car?? 4DKB = V8 auto EEC5 EF1 XR8. Another very early ecu dated April 1994. Again someone had changed the box code to 4DKE with a black pen. Haven't dumped the code on this one yet.
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xafalcon wrote: Came across a couple of interesting V8 ECU's this week. I couldn't find any references to them on the www or any of my usual sources 4DEB = V8 auto EEC5 EF1 Fairmont Ghia. It was a very early ecu, dated April 1994. Someone had changed the box code to 4DED with a black pen. When I dumped the code, there were no usual code identifiers around hex address 19F00 and no "Copyright Ford Motor Co." around hex address 19F60. Perhaps this was some pre-release ecu that got used in a production car?? 4DKB = V8 auto EEC5 EF1 XR8. Another very early ecu dated April 1994. Again someone had changed the box code to 4DKE with a black pen. Haven't dumped the code on this one yet. Well my NF 5.0 had a 4DEG, so would it be an earlier version as mine is Apr 95 build? and my bro-in-law's XR8 ex HWP has a 4DKF his is a 96 model EF II
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The code in the 4DEB is identical to 4DED code (but 4DEE and onwards is different), except it is missing the usual Ford ID lines and the duplicate checksum at 1200A-B
I've now dumped the code from the 4DKB. It's also missing the usual Ford ID lines and the duplicate checksum at 1200A-B. I don't have an early 4DKx to compare, but it is different to my 4DKF. I don't expect the code to be anything spectacular though. I just though it was unusual that nobody had ever reported either of these before anywhere that I could find on the www. That someone had used a black biro to carefully over-write the code. And I got two through the workshop in a week.
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Ok, xafalcon, is there much difference with the 4DKF to a "normal" 4DEG as when I put my mates 4DKF in the NF there seems to be quite a bit of difference, I know that the 4DKF was from an option whatever Highway patrol so I've been told there is no limiter, but it seems better across the range to me.
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Interesting, Tristram.
I've seen a modified ECU before, from a Herrod supercharged EF. It had modified timing tables only. The only way to do this would be to desolder the flash ROM, reprogram it and reinstall it. I guess someone at Ford reused development ECUs and reflashed them with newer strategies? Cheers, Jason
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I have an EB series 1 xr8
The car is a manual.. from your codes on page 1 it should be an auto right? the J3 port is open and looks like it has seen some action once apon a time? also has a uni chip attached. |
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galapogos01 wrote: Interesting, Tristram. I've seen a modified ECU before, from a Herrod supercharged EF. It had modified timing tables only. The only way to do this would be to desolder the flash ROM, reprogram it and reinstall it. I guess someone at Ford reused development ECUs and reflashed them with newer strategies? Cheers, Jason Neither of the ecu's were electronically modified Jason, except with a ball point pen on the stickers. Someone had carefully changed the box code from a version B to a version D (4DEB to 4DED, $DKB to 4DKD), and the binaries didn't have that "Copyright Ford Motor Company" and the strategy version written into the code. Interestingly, the duplicate checksum at 1200A-B was also missing from the code of both of the ecus. All other EF-EL ecus I've read have all these features. The 4DEB "active" code however was identical to the 4DED, I didn't have an early 4DKD code to compare the other one with, but I would guess it's the same situation. I'm only guessing that these may have been pre-release versions. When was the EF launched? My references say Sept 94, these ecus were both programmed in April. This is an unusually long time to sit around in my experience
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ihatestok wrote: I have an EB series 1 xr8 The car is a manual.. from your codes on page 1 it should be an auto right? the J3 port is open and looks like it has seen some action once apon a time? also has a uni chip attached. If you are using the 1DGA on a manual, you are in "torque truncation mode" aka transmission protection mode. The auto ecu's all need a tcm signal to avoid this. Without the signal about 10 degrees of timing is dropped to protect the auto transmission from damage. A carry over from the weak AOD trans fitted behind 5.0's in USA Lift the bonnet, look on the passengers side close to the gas strut. There should be a white sticker about 20 x 25mm. It will give the code of the original ecu fitted to the vehicle. Series 1 XR8's got 1DGA = auto, 1DFA = manual. Check the body tags, it will also list the transmission type originally fitted to the vehicle. Maybe someone converted auto to manual???
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any1 know what ecu code 7TDB is???
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P100 Ute wrote: here is my collection so far..
JA - XF Leaded, Auto JM - XF Leaded, Manual WA1- XF Uleaded, (unsure if auto or manual) WA2- XF Uleaded, (unsure if auto or manual) 0DDA - 3.9 CFI EA 0DDC - Series 2 EA 4 Spd Auto 0DBF - EB Auto 3.9 MPI 12BD - AU2 6 Cyl Auto 12ED - AU Auto Police ECU 12MB - AU2 Ute 6 Cyl Manual 12?D - AU Series 3 XR6 Manual ECU 1DAC - XG/XH? Yoot without smartlock 1DCC - 4.0l 4 speed auto not sure id eb1 or 2 1DCD - EB 4Spd Auto 1DCE - 1993 EB II Auto, smartlock, 3.23 diff 1DDC - EB XR8 Manual, smartlock 1DEB - EB XR8 1DEC - ED XR8 Autos 1DGA - 1991 EB XR8, 4spd auto, no speed limit 1DHA - 91 NC Fairlane Ghia V8 1DKE - EBII, Smartlock 22CA - AU Series 2/3 XR8 200kw Manual 2DAD - ED XR6 Manual 2DCA - EBGT and/or Sprint 2DDA - EBGT and/or Sprint, Auto 3DAC - 1994 ED Falcon, manual, 3DAC - 1994 XG 4.0L Manual. with Smartlock 3DCA - ? 3DEA - Jul 1994 ED XR8, manual, 3.27 diff 3DBC - ED GLi/Fairmont Sedan 3DFA - ED XR8 Auto, Smartlock 3TBA - ED XR6 Auto 3TBB - XG XR6 4DAF - 95 EF Falcon. 6 cyl Manual 4DBC - Ford Falcon EF 4DBF - EF Auto 4DBG - Gli/Futura Sedan Auto 4DCC - 1994 EF Fairmont Ghia 4.0 Auto 3:23 4DCF - EF Fairmont 4.0L Auto 4DCE- EF FAIRMONT 4.0L AUTO [ OPTION 10] POLICE 4DCG - EF Fairmont 4.0L 3.23 auto 4DED - Jan 1995 EF Futura, V8, Auto, 3.23 4DEG - 1995 EF V8 fairmont auto, 3.23 4DKF - 1996 EF ex-pursuit 5.0 Auto 3:08 4TAD - 1994 EF XR6, Manual 4TBD - EF Fairmont Ghia Tickford Auto 4.0L 4TDB - EF XR6 Auto. 4TED - EF GLI DUAL FUEL I6 4TFA - XR6 Auto 5DAA - 1996 XH ute, manual, smartlock. no central locking. 5DAC - EF Manual 5DBA - XH 4.0 Auto 5DBB - May 97 XH series 1 panel van with auto, smartlock and 3.23 5DBF - XH 4.0 Auto 5DCA - EF Series II Fairmont Ghia (Tickford I6HP - 4 Speed Auto - 3.45 LSD 15" Wheels 5TAC - EF XR6 Manual 5TCA - Police XR6 (No Speed Limit) 5TFA - EF XR6 Auto (01/03/96) 6DBB - 1997 EL Fairmont Auto. 6DBD - 1997 EL Auto 3.08 Diff 6DDB - EL Fairmont 6 cyl Auto. 6DFC - Jan 1997 EL XR8, manual, 3.23 diff. 6DFD - 1998 series1 XR8 (lo-po). 6DHD - 1997 EL XR8 Auto. 6DLE - 4.0L Auto (South african Export) 6DNB - EL Police 4.0L Auto 6TAD - EL XR6 Manual - Revision D 6TBB - Police Spec EL 6TBC - EL XR6 6TBD - EL XR6 Auto - Revision D 6TED - EL, Auto, Tickford with GAS (6 cyl) 6TGB - EL Falcon GLI - Tickford GAS ECU revision B, 1996 model 6TGE - EL Falcon GLI - Tickford GAS ECU revision E, 1998 model 7DAC - EA Wagon "S Pack" MPFI, Manual, 3.9 7DBC - EA 3.9 MPFI Auto 7DBD - EA 3spd Auto 7DCD - EA Manual 7DCE - 3.9l CFI 5 speed 7DDE - 1989 EA 3.9 CPI 3spd Auto 7DYA - XH 4.0 Auto 7DYB - XH 4.0 Auto WABF - AU Dual Fuel Auto. WANA - AU Auto WTAB - AU XR6 Manual X2CA - AU1 TS50 Y3EC - AU1 XR8 Auto (Adaptive Shift) |
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animal_ef wrote: 94DA-12A650-CF - thats the part number on my ef auto police ecu 94DA-12A650-CE - THIS IS THE PART NUMBER ON MY EF AUTO FAIRMONT [OPTION 10] POLICE CAR. I have added it to one of the lists. |
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James84 wrote: animal_ef wrote: 94DA-12A650-CF - thats the part number on my ef auto police ecu 94DA-12A650-CE - THIS IS THE PART NUMBER ON MY EF AUTO FAIRMONT [OPTION 10] POLICE CAR. I have added it to one of the lists. it should be option 20 for police.. |
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TROYMAN wrote: James84 wrote: animal_ef wrote: 94DA-12A650-CF - thats the part number on my ef auto police ecu 94DA-12A650-CE - THIS IS THE PART NUMBER ON MY EF AUTO FAIRMONT [OPTION 10] POLICE CAR. I have added it to one of the lists. it should be option 20 for police.. Yeah probably right ,couldn't remember if 10 or 20 picked it up from wreckers in Moe with cluster for $50 the lot. |
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hey
Sorry if this has already been answered, but whats the difference between a 6TBB (police spec EL xr6) to a normal xr6? Are there any differences in the actually car specs? thanks |
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