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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:50 am 
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Hi,

Does anyone have a wiring diagram... ie what pin is what for the ECU in an EL XR8???

I'm trying to wire in a wolf 3D and would really like some assistance in the pin-outs in the stock ECU..

I'd rather use the factory loom instead of running a whole new one.

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:55 pm 
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BUMP!!! Also are the V8 EECIV and V very similar with their pinouts ie number of pins and positions?

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:07 am 
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In my manual I have the wiring for the fuel injection on EF & EL being the same. The TCM side is different.

Give me a couple of days and I will scan the pages for you. I take it you have the 104 pin plug.
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:35 pm 
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BUMP!!! Also are the V8 EECIV and V very similar with their pinouts ie number of pins and positions?
No, vastly different - 60 pin V 104 pin. You should be able to use an EF 6 cyl ECU plug and relocate wiring over (that is, cut and splice).
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In my manual I have the wiring for the fuel injection on EF & EL being the same.
The ECU pinouts are nearly the same - electric fan pin outs are different, maybe some others too.
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Give me a couple of days and I will scan the pages for you. I take it you have the 104 pin plug.
I won't have access to a copier for a few weeks, so you'll most likely post first.

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:11 am 
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:27 am 
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Well we haven't delivered yet . . . . :P

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:45 pm 
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I have found this diagram on the PC and remember using it when I wired in the xr8 to the muz. It is from an AU but from what I can remember the pins were the same, apart from cam/crank sensor which my one didn't have.

Will get around to scanning in some wiring diagrams if you need them.

ON my other document I have..
Pin Description
2 Diagnostics STO
3 Enable Engine Input
4 Oxygen Sensor Ground
10 Air Con Clutch
17 Engine cooling fan relay 1
23 ignition ground
24 power ground
25 case ground
30 air con evap air temp sensor
34 trans temp link
35 hego sensor 1
36 MAF ground
38 engine coolant temp sensor
39 intake air temp sensor
41 air con clutch
42 engine cooling fac relay 2
43 data output link to TCM & instrument
45 tacho signal
46 engine cooling fan relay 4
47 EGR solenoid
48 ignition diag monitor
49 dizzy PIP
50 Spark Ou (Spout)
51 power ground
55 keep alive power
58 VSS input
61 HEGO sensor 2
64 auto trans range selector/ Neutral drive switch
65 EGR valve position sensor
66 Diagnostics STI
67 Canister purge solenoid
68 engine cooling fan 3
69 air con relay
71 main efi relay power
72 fuel injector 7
73 fuel injector 5
74 fuel injector 3
75 fuel injector 1
76 power ground
77 power ground
80 fuel pump control
83 idle air control valve
86 a/c heater blower fan
88 MAF sensor signal
89 Throttle position sensor
90 ref voltage
91 sensor ground
93 air con recirculation override
97 main efi relay power
98 fuel injector 8
99 fuel injector 6
100 fuel injector 4
101 fuel injector 2
103 power ground.


I probably have more written down in my project book. if you get stuck on a particular pin I can dig it up.

Do you need the pin outs for the auto TCM?

Hope this helps!

 

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:19 pm 
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AU has integrated TCM so will be different for auto inputs
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:16 pm 
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Ah, hence the solenoid control pin outs on the diagram.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:05 pm 
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Thanks again. This has been very helpful. I have more questions though. Is there much of a difference between ED engine bay looms and those found in EF-ELs? The only difference would be the airbag wires dont you think?

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:34 am 
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I'm unable to help you there as I only needed the wiring for EF and I have a solid steering wheel as an airbag!
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:47 am 
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Thanks again. This has been very helpful. I have more questions though. Is there much of a difference between ED engine bay looms and those found in EF-ELs? The only difference would be the airbag wires dont you think?
Add electric fans in there also. EF/EL's run electric cruise control. The ABS systems were different ED-EF/EL, Bendix then Bosch (although you'll probably retain the earlier Bendix system.
Otherwise they were both SEFI and TFI/coil ignition, so shouldn't be overly different.
Only other thing I'm not sure, did the V8's follow the I6's for knock sensors, i.e. ED No, EF/EL yes.

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:25 pm 
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Oh yes, oops I forgot about those thermo fans. I wont have to worry about the knock sensor as the Windsors have many noises/harmonics that it would drown a knock sensor silly. Seeing the cruise is different, I'll get the EF cruise too. I've got my hands on a EF-EL V8 wiring diagram although it's a crappy ellery one. Having a look through it, one thing that looks the same is the wiring for the climate control setups between the ED and EF so I might be on a winner there.

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:29 pm 
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All the peripherals are interchangeable for the Climate control, except for the dash units - the cabin temp sensor is integrated inside the EF/EL CC unit.

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:05 pm 
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Ok, I went crazy on an EF Fairmont 4.0L today and I got the entire dash with the cluster, trip computer and climate control. I managed to get the console and steering column mainly for the updated electronic cruise control. I got the cruise module and engine bay loom which goes from the rear of the dash(near fuse box) routes underneath drivers front guard and under coolant bubble tank. It then wraps around the front of the car to the ABS pump and relays for the thermo fans. I can say that the ABS, cruise control and the airbag are all independant from the EECV as there are no direct imput/outputs.

Question: Where does the ABS control module hide on an EF?
Question: Does the green BEM have Smartlock built in?

 

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