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If it was only a catch can, then do you need an air filter on it? Wouldn't that ruin the suction to the rocker cover? Hmmmmmmmmm...
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hey
whats better k nd n pod filter or those ram pods?? cheers
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fiend wrote: If it was only a catch can, then do you need an air filter on it? Wouldn't that ruin the suction to the rocker cover? Hmmmmmmmmm... it doesnt look like its running from the intake so there would be no 'suction' but would still allow gases to vent out of the motor without spitting oil everywhere |
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There is one blue pipe coming out of the PCV area (as per normal- top of the rocker cover at cylinder 2, passenger side) leading to the "catch can" and a pipe leading from "catch can" back towards the underside of the BBM, which is the normal point for the standard Ford pipe to return into. I only guessed it is acting as a normal suction device because of this. Anyway, where's the man who built it with his explanation?!!! Bloody nice looking thing though... Good original work that's for sure.
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if you have a closer look the second hose actually runs to the breather at the rear of the rocker cover, not the manifold...
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I have the same CAI GeZza200 but have not fitted it yet as its not a straight in flush mount
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TROYMAN wrote: if you have a closer look the second hose actually runs to the breather at the rear of the rocker cover, not the manifold... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thanks TroyModMan. Awesome. I was looking closely, trust me! It just didn't click in my melon what was happening... Guess it works, but all the gases out the rocker cover will just be released into the engine bay via the breather filter and you're relying on positive pressure in the rocker cover to force the gas out, rather than allowing the suction of the air intake to keep the rocker area at low pressure, thus sucking gases out quick smart. Anyway, that's not a big deal. Guess I'll continue looking for some sort of trap and filter setup for my own theory then. It can't hurt to keep some of the oil out of the intake, that's for sure! |
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fiend wrote: TROYMAN wrote: if you have a closer look the second hose actually runs to the breather at the rear of the rocker cover, not the manifold... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thanks TroyModMan. Awesome. I was looking closely, trust me! It just didn't click in my melon what was happening... Guess it works, but all the gases out the rocker cover will just be released into the engine bay via the breather filter and you're relying on positive pressure in the rocker cover to force the gas out, rather than allowing the suction of the air intake to keep the rocker area at low pressure, thus sucking gases out quick smart. Anyway, that's not a big deal. Guess I'll continue looking for some sort of trap and filter setup for my own theory then. It can't hurt to keep some of the oil out of the intake, that's for sure! yeah doesnt look right to me.... how does the blowby gas get to the intake on this setup?
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gogetta wrote: yeah doesnt look right to me.... how does the blowby gas get to the intake on this setup? in this set up it doesnt go into the intake like factory.. it just catches and vents it through the filter on the catch can... its a bit old school/ pre emission style.. i always like to run crankcase ventilation to manifold vac as it helps with oil cooling..except on a tired engine but on the other hand no crankcase vent= no crap being sucked into the intake probably can help on the performance side of things?? |
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Saloon Spec AU XR6 falcon race car for sale on www.carsales.com--- controlled intake tube supplied by pacemaker with conical(pod) filter....
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EL__Fairmont wrote: Saloon Spec AU XR6 falcon race car for sale on http://www.carsales.com--- controlled intake tube supplied by pacemaker with conical(pod) filter.... (IMAGE - deleted no need to re-see it again allready) looks like a cheap supercheap air filter/pod filter to me as they have a silver bottom and blue/red/purple top to them. why stinge out on the filter when you just paid 300 odd for the intake pipe lol |
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huggiebear... im a bit suss of that bear humping your engine after seeing that funnily disturbing pedo bear thread in off topic... lol
here's my intake.. also have a 10 inch wide by 3 inch tall cut in the front of the air box to compliment the ss snorkel and massive neck feeding the air into the lower airbox section...
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huggiebear wrote: EL__Fairmont wrote: Saloon Spec AU XR6 falcon race car for sale on http://www.carsales.com--- controlled intake tube supplied by pacemaker with conical(pod) filter.... (IMAGE - deleted no need to re-see it again allready) looks like a cheap supercheap air filter/pod filter to me as they have a silver bottom and blue/red/purple top to them. why stinge out on the filter when you just paid 300 odd for the intake pipe lol Looks like a K&N pod filter too me, the older versions used to have a chrome base before being replaced with polyurethane rubber base........ http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RR-3002 BTW I priced one of those intake tubes today---$400.. Exhaust shop said they could make one up out of mild steel for $250 although not ceramic coated????????????
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Mont5.0 wrote: funny thing. my car (the front apron)- has never been as filthy, as of every thursday morning (after WSID wicked wednesdays). they say the strip is cleaner- i think not! I take the whole induction set up off right up to the exposed throttlebody.. always good for a couple of tenths of a second quicker and never had any trouble with debris.. showed a smal couple of kw gain on a dyno too.. with green machine and (troy and vince) spectating.. -Crescent motor sport dyno... |
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fordfreak ef wrote: huggiebear... im a bit suss of that bear humping your engine after seeing that funnily disturbing pedo bear thread in off topic... lol haha yeah that bear is funny as. fiend actually made the sig for me, i np longer have that motor either, been through 2 since that one lol fordfreak ef wrote: also have a 10 inch wide by 3 inch tall cut in the front of the air box to compliment the ss snorkel and massive neck feeding the air into the lower airbox section... i read in the forced induction guide that you get with old editions of street fords that in the BA XR6T they gained like 14kw??? at the wheels just by opening the airbox lid on the dyno... i might be a little high on the 14kw but ill double check when the next bathurst ad is on lol |
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