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TROYMAN wrote: so wouldnt that mean a typhoon or an xr6t will have pretty poor throttle responce off boost compared to the na version?????? yes, same way turbo BBMs have no butterflies, off boost throttle response cant be as good, but doesnt take long to get on boost 
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very nice setup troyman, what you got under the plate for the turbo, pod in a box?
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phil545 wrote: very nice setup troyman, what you got under the plate for the turbo, pod in a box? yea a pod filter, its not boxed but the stainles cover covers the side aswell, so its semi boxed and the inside is lined with heat sheilding.. here is a side view
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ahh nice mate looks very professional
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lukas_bartko wrote: rhys.c wrote: Also remember that the NA FG plenum is plastic. If history tells us anything its that they develop vacuum leaks over time (and look ghey). If I recall the boosted plenums were alloy on the FG's. Is that right? Havent spent a lot of time with the FG yet. Yes they are aluminium on the turbos. I just took a look at my old man's G6ET before I saw this, it's a pity they didn't make the NA intake in aluminium because polished up along side a polished rocker cover and other assorted components it would start to look pretty impressive under there. There's already a s**t of plastic in the engine bay which tends to make the whole thing look a bit cheap and tacky, might need to start splashing some paint around to see if that helps the aesthetics a little. Having driven the turbo and NA back to back the NA definitely has a more immediate/urgent throttle than the turbo (but only for a second then all hell breaks loose in the G6ET ) even with traction control I've been chirping the rears un-intentionally on intersections, to be honest it's taking a bit to get used to.
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Thanks to brad17djr for a little tip about a restrictor inside the FG's intake I was able to mod my intake after all. Photos posted below...
http://www.fordmods.com/post1205872.html#p1205872
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FAST-XR wrote: TROYMAN wrote: so wouldnt that mean a typhoon or an xr6t will have pretty poor throttle responce off boost compared to the na version?????? yes, same way turbo BBMs have no butterflies, off boost throttle response cant be as good, but doesnt take long to get on boost The difference is negligible. I did back to back dyno runs with my old 1671au cam and as you can see the lower red line is with the bbm open for the whole run. the other two are runs with bbm running normally:  Bare in mind that this tune was made for bbm running normally and so the timing wasnt right, CVE told me that by adjusting the AFR and timing he could have it on a similar curve. So you would have no noticeable difference if you fitted the metal plenum then got a flash tune to suit. Perhaps even with a more aggressive tune you could gain power over stock tune + plastic. Im not saying its the best but hey - it should be boosted anyway 
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you can see the major difference in the torque though..
in saying that, if the timing and afr was adjusted to suit the non operating bbm the torque will be better than in the graph.. but i still think the mid range torque will still be better with the bbm... |
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yeh there is, will never know how close it could get though. Im not gonna pay for a full tune for off BBM just to see how close I could get it lol.
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rhys.c wrote: FAST-XR wrote: TROYMAN wrote: so wouldnt that mean a typhoon or an xr6t will have pretty poor throttle responce off boost compared to the na version?????? yes, same way turbo BBMs have no butterflies, off boost throttle response cant be as good, but doesnt take long to get on boost The difference is negligible. I did back to back dyno runs with my old 1671au cam and as you can see the lower red line is with the bbm open for the whole run. the other two are runs with bbm running normally: Bare in mind that this tune was made for bbm running normally and so the timing wasnt right, CVE told me that by adjusting the AFR and timing he could have it on a similar curve. So you would have no noticeable difference if you fitted the metal plenum then got a flash tune to suit. Perhaps even with a more aggressive tune you could gain power over stock tune + plastic. Im not saying its the best but hey - it should be boosted anyway At one point there is a 20kw loss in power, how can you call that negligible. Your tuner is talking out of his a*** if thinks he 'tune' all that power back in. either that or his tune with the runners working is pretty poor. Even if he gets half way the other 10kw is still a good reason to have the runners working |
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as said the tune and AFRs aren't correct. Its not a stock tune which would have performed better.
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Well i got my growler kit fitted today, all i can say is wow!! you can definitely hear it sucking but the biggest difference is the effect its had on my exhaust it is soooo much louder - i love it, sounds so sweet now! Anyway pic below
Cant wait for the next couple of mods - nearly complete 
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EL__Fairmont wrote: In QLD, as long as it's secured with a bracket(which it is) it's ok to have installed. Suncorp insurance has added modified intake to my mod list on policy.... how would having an exposed oiled filter be an ok modification? dont worry about suncorp, insurance companies will give insurance to every man & his dog, but its only when it comes time to claim that you get knocked back |
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FordFairmont wrote: EL__Fairmont wrote: In QLD, as long as it's secured with a bracket(which it is) it's ok to have installed. Suncorp insurance has added modified intake to my mod list on policy.... how would having an exposed oiled filter be an ok modification? dont worry about suncorp, insurance companies will give insurance to every man & his dog, but its only when it comes time to claim that you get knocked back yeah i realise that--modified intake is listed on my insurance aswell as extractors,sports exhaust, and 16in alloy mag wheels. I am currently running a stock el intake pipe, k&n panel filter, stock airbox with el gt snorkel. I'm done with pod filters and all the hype:) Although I have kept the modified intake on my mods list incase they try to get me for having a k&n high flow panel filter:)
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kickn_it wrote: Attachment: DSCN0071.jpg My baby, Will use this as a template until i bend up some pipe and weld it up, but does the job nicely, very bitey on the throttle especially when i take the gas mixer out. Ahhh soon to get a gas research throttle body  . More power maybe warp speed i hope LOL  hey mate what sort of snorkel is that?
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