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Yup, but im not keen on msns
as for coolant, all you need is the brass adapter from a carby XF inlet manifold (they ran the same coolant temp sensor as commo for EST) this will adapt GM coolant to Ford thread (XF runs same coolamt temp as E series)
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I was thinking of leaving the ford one in place to run the dash temperature gauge and for timing until I get around to hooking up the full msns gear. What have you got against the msns ?
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Hyena wrote: NFGhia wrote: I couldn't help myself and ordered a MS from http://www.diyautotune.com $10 off till end of month Jipped! I just ordered 2 from glens garage the other day for a bit more than that... How much was shipping ? Don't know how I got Jipped!!! The kit I got has all parts and CNC case for $130 with $17 post $197Aus via Paypal.. Was gonna go for partial kit But then I have to piss about to get the other bits that I don't have lying around. Stuff like the DB37 PCB connector aren't lying around at Jaycar  Plus I'd rather be playing with the unit than still cutting out holes in a case, but I guess It depends on how you want to install it???
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NFGhia wrote: Don't know how I got Jipped!!!
haha, no I was saying i got jipped. Meh it's only $10, I'll live 
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ok my ms is working fine now how are you goin with the wiring hyena?
have you attempted it yet
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Actually, I'm kinda stalling mate. LOL
I'm going racing in a weeks time so I don't want to touch anything before then incase i bugged it 
I probably should start getting my act together with the wiring, sensors etc
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lol thats cool...
are you going to use different sensors? i still cant figure out how the edis modules i got work? they got 3 wires and i got 3 of them ? wat sensors you gonna get and wat from?
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Hyena wrote: NFGhia wrote: Don't know how I got Jipped!!! haha, no I was saying i got jipped. Meh it's only $10, I'll live Hehehe sorry dude..  miss-read that one..
And I'm thinking on the wiring side of things to go down to Nick-a-part with some cutters and get some in-line plugs with cabling so I can just cut the wires I need and fit the plugs so that I can easily plug MS in and out.. I need the car to get to work so I want to be able to change a couple of plugs and have it running on the EEC IF things don't go well.. 
Just an  you guys might like to try.
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hahaha 'nick a part ' so true
yeah i got a every day driver does the ms lose memory if unplugged i am gonna make lume and slpice wires and divert the sensors to ms but also leave ones needed for eecv to work.
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sickd wrote: lol thats cool...
are you going to use different sensors? i still cant figure out how the edis modules i got work? they got 3 wires and i got 3 of them ? wat sensors you gonna get and wat from? 3 Wires.. OC, GND, IC - they are marked on the actual ignitor. Coil1/Ignitor 1 OC - connects to the coil input #1 GND - err, connects to ground! 
IC - connects to the MS coil output #1 Coil1/Ignitor 2 OC - connects to the coil input #2 GND - err, connects to ground!
IC - connects to the MS coil output #2 Coil1/Ignitor 3 OC - connects to the coil input #3 GND - err, connects to ground!
IC - connects to the MS coil output #3 I'm not sure if the MS lets you define dwell, but these are good for around 4.5ms
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Heres a diagram from MoTeC which gives you a similar idea.
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Hyena wrote: I was thinking of leaving the ford one in place to run the dash temperature gauge and for timing until I get around to hooking up the full msns gear. What have you got against the msns ?
I suppose its a personel thing, but im not keen on the software, and the fact that you have to have your input trigger advanced a heaps i.e 40deg for the ECU to delay its output to effectivly retard timing to your desired settings, im not keen on doing it this way, it works, but i think id rather wait till MSII Yeah, youd be better off using your stocko sensors in later model stuff i reckon, are you planning on piggy backing it? i think id be inclined to piggy back MS and control fuel only, this way the BB manifold and all the other s**t still works fine, and maybe look into MSnEdis, although youd need to grab a edis6 module from the states or maybe hack into the stocko EF ECU as Edis is intergrated onto the ECU board
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Yeah I'm planning to piggy back and retain as many of the EECV features as possible. I assume the BBM will still function, but if not I reckon I can get around that with the shiftlight feature in the msns (as much as I'd like to use it as a shiftlight) with the output hooked to a relay driving a solenoid to directly operate the BBM switch over. That's interesting what you say about the timing advance, I haven't looking into it that far yet... Brad has acquired a cache of EDIS6 modules here and has become the official distributor of them
Thanks for that PDF Brad. There are no mention of MS coil outputs 1, 2 and 3 in the MS wiring diagram but I guess those connections must be tied up with the extra msns addon hardware side of things... Has anyone noticed the fuel injector calculator seems a bit out ? My engine is making about 300 flywheel HP and it reckons I need 30lb/hr injectors, yet I'm doing fine with my stock 19lb so far and still running a bit rich...
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Well in that diagram theres nothing at all referring to spark output.
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Ah, yes, wrong diagram
I was looking at the coil/tach terminal... so what are going to connect to for that in an EF ?
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