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Mmmm. Throttle body is stock, timing back to factory, might just pull the entire manifold and start again. Good excuse to throw in some au injectors and tidy up the wiring.
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ok i have a ford falcon XD with a boosted AU block with 42lbs injectors running at 43.5 psi
i am completely new at tunning things i have allready changed on the j3 chip smart shield disabled rev limiter 255 speed limiter 255 injector slop 42lbs i am using j3 chip and a 2j9 tewblog and winlog with TI dash i have the 2J9 wires plugged in as wb+ = h02 inpt wb- = ho2 earth connecter to earth earth = ho2 earth nbsim = return sig rpm = tachomete sig vss = speedometer sig user 1 = map input user 2 = TPS here are my problems that im hoping yous can help when i use winlog i do not get a proper AFR it goes to 207 on start up then dies down to 0.9 but when i use tewblog i get what seems to be correct afr of 14.53 or something like that when i use winlog i do not get any reading on map or thottle pos but when i change the properties on them to user volt 1 and user volt 2 i get readings but nothing usefull also when i get this working properly how do i set up the matrix to get a reading for VE and how do you use the map moddifier for boost |
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Posts: 1139 Joined: 27th Feb 2005 Ride: Supercharged EF Fairmont Location: T.I. Performance HQ |
Hey Marc,
You will need to do a little more research on your own if you want to DIY tune your own car. Just posting questions on a forum and expecting free advice won't get you very far. I have already explained that the wb pins are outputs not inputs. Please read the 2J site for how to use them. http://wbo2.com/2j/ You need to configure all of the 2J inputs in Winlog per the tuning guides you were sent by email. They are all at http://www.tiperformance.com.au/documents.html . You are seeing the default lambda value as you haven't configured them properly. This applies for all other inputs also. Info about the matrix view is available in the tuning guide and Winlog online help. Note that Winlog is not made by Techedge or T.I. Have a good read of the tuning guides and the Winlog help and forums and good luck! Cheers, Jason
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ok making an update i have read and re read everything
s**t still doesnt make sense im aiming for a stoich idle but all i get is 10.5-11 i changed my slope to 18.1 original setting decreased the VE by 10% and even more gonna try getting a new serial to usb cable see if that fixes anything aswell as get another laptop see if that helps but i still dont understand why TEWblog shows a different AFR to winlog ive got it set as 0=9 5=19 |
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Hi Marc,
Telling the ecu the injectors are smaller will make the pulse width longer and give you more fuel. You need to raise the injector slope not lower it. Before doing that though, load the proper calibration file for AFR in WinLog. No point tuning AFR if the numbers are wrong. If the basics do not make sense to you, perhaps you are best off paying someone to do a tune for you. Cheers, Jason
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this is what i understand -correct me if im wrong
volumetric efficiently is the % of air used ie 4.1ltr at 100% is 4.1 liters per duty cycle - haltechs explanation injector slope increases/decreases pulse width fuel base table is for changing the AFR to match the temperature of the engine what i dont understand how to get the right table for winlog i have used wbutil to write the 9.5 table i have set the values of winlog AFR 0 = 9 5=19 so where is this table you speak of cause as far as i know ive done every thing correctly |
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Hi again Marc,
It is all explained in the WinLog user guide. http://www.devtechnics.com/winlog/winlog.pdf - see page 10 also http://www.devtechnics.com/winlog/techedge.pdf - see Field Configuration section Let me say this again, I am not the creator of WinLog. You really need to read the manuals for the software you are using before you ask for help. Cheers, Jason
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Just noticed the code on my EEC is WABE (au1 auto 1998) but there is so sign of it on the site, does that mean mine isn't supported? I looked in the application chart and binary section.
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just use one of the other definition and binary's that suit you engine ie au1 or au2/3 manual or auto should be the same just depends on VCT / intech
http://www.tiperformance.com.au/technical.html im using a 12VC ECU (auto) or something and using a 12AF (manual) bin on chip |
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cheers mate i found the one what i was looking for... so stupid i read the other 2 the parts that applied to me anyway didnt think to read the other PDF its labled drivers
cheers lol ok im doing something wrong i can tune it to reach stoich in neutral but if i use the throttle it dies (guessing sudden change of air caused it to increase AFR) but if i press very lightly i can rev or am i supposed to let it run rich/lean and drive then change the VE accordingly my theory was get a good base neutral stoich and go from there |
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Glad you got there eventually.
Make sure you are doing closed loop tuning with the O2 sensor disconnected. Otherwise, any changes you make will be corrected out by the O2. This is explained in the tuning guides you said you had read. It sounds like you have gone way too lean at idle. Cheers, Jason
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yay me lol
the only 02 sensor i have plugged in is that of the wideband controller LS409. ok here is another question for you that has confused me from day 1 in the ti SD tuning guide http://www.tiperformance.com.au/Technic ... 0Guide.pdf it says: Remember that the EEC measures Vacuum in units relative to vacuum (inHGa). This means that 30inHGa is actually 0inHG (WOT), and 0inHGa is 30inHG (Full Vacuum) the VE table in AU2+ 12AF seems to read in inHG not inHGa now when im tuning the VE table using analyser i have changed the rpm and inHG to match that of the tunerpro RT VE table to make it easier to find read/change cause they didnt match up this is how i have setup my map with winlog 0v = 0 and 5v = -30 (so i can change later for boost) which seems to give me the correct value of inhg so the matrix looks like this  PS - EVERY One never buy SAAS gauges they are shiiiiiit brand new one and its fkd doesnt reset back to 0 sits around 5inhg. |
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All SD EECs read in inHGa. Make sure you have the transfer for your map sensor the right way around
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Just curious while on the topic of "tuning"
What should the voltage reading be on a factory 02 sensor ? As i am only getting 0.1V no fluctuations no matter what , i also got 300 meg as the impedance. |
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galapogos01 wrote: Maybe check your o2 sensor works properly, measure it and look for codes? Give the fuel changes a try, you never know. Cheers, Jason Just to follow up, the one I had in it was a realatively new NTK o2 sensor but I tried a spare original ford one and it seems to have fixed the problem. It now fluctuates between 14.5-14.9 instead of 14.7-16.0. The voltage change of the sensor seems a lot steeper as well as 0.1v occurs at 14.9 instead of 16.0, which I guess is why it was varying so much. The dodgy sensor also didn't go above 0.5v, which is why it never went under 14.7 too. It still doesn't seem to run in lean cruise mode though, is MFA enabled on the 6TAC bin? EF_wanabe wrote: Just curious while on the topic of "tuning" What should the voltage reading be on a factory 02 sensor ? As i am only getting 0.1V no fluctuations no matter what , i also got 300 meg as the impedance. Well my sensor now fluctuates from 0.1v to 0.9v which is what it is meant to do, if its reading 0.1v it is running lean ie more than 14.7:1 when the sensor is working properly.
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