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Thanks for that , i should really have awaited for it to warm up as i have read in guides they need 600C to read properly Will try again if no luck then i know its the sensor 
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EF_wanabe wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thanks for that , i should really have awaited for it to warm up as i have read in guides they need 600C to read properly Will try again if no luck then i know its the sensor whoops I should have said lean, not rich!
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shyun wrote: EF_wanabe wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thanks for that , i should really have awaited for it to warm up as i have read in guides they need 600C to read properly Will try again if no luck then i know its the sensor whoops I should have said lean, not rich! This may sound retarded but what if the ECU has something to do with it but doubt it the 02 sensor tells the ECU whats what not the other way around car runs rich as anything i was surprised |
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EF_wanabe wrote: shyun wrote: EF_wanabe wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ This may sound retarded but what if the ECU has something to do with it but doubt it the 02 sensor tells the ECU whats what not the other way around car runs rich as anything i was surprised Well that would make sense I guess, 02 sends the ECU a lean signal so it adds extra fuel to compensate and then runs rich.
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shyun wrote: EF_wanabe wrote: shyun wrote: EF_wanabe wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ This may sound retarded but what if the ECU has something to do with it but doubt it the 02 sensor tells the ECU whats what not the other way around car runs rich as anything i was surprised Well that would make sense I guess, 02 sends the ECU a lean signal so it adds extra fuel to compensate and then runs rich. Yes very very true Thought i was hallucinating thinking it but correct |
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With the ef 8cyl bin 4DED what do we need to change the tstrat value to for a manual trans ? Does the transmission type value need to be changed to something else too ?
I looked in the 4ddf bin but it says it doesn't work with the nvaf9 defs so does that mean the value I would see in that bin can't simply be used to plonk into the 4DED one? |
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ok here is an update mate
what i have tryed bin 1 semi working injector slope set to stock 18.1 running at 43.5 psi tuned the VE table but it is so low like in the sigle digits i can drive around the block but cant give it throttle cause the AFR sky rockets i have also had it set 18.1 and run at 30 psi but i want to get full performance out of the injectors bin 2 not working injector slope set to 42lb/hr running at 43.5 psi calculated the percentage increase to 136% increase increased the VE by 36% it starts up but as soon as i touch the accelerator it dies if i ride the clutch to reverse and 1st i can get some movement before it dies again AFR sky rockets i also had a problem when running this if i left it in idle for about 40 sec it would start to increas AFR to 17-19 and then die back down to stoich any suggestion on what to try next thanks fig |
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Posts: 1139 Joined: 27th Feb 2005 Ride: Supercharged EF Fairmont Location: T.I. Performance HQ |
viper1431 wrote: With the ef 8cyl bin 4DED what do we need to change the tstrat value to for a manual trans ? Does the transmission type value need to be changed to something else too ? I looked in the 4ddf bin but it says it doesn't work with the nvaf9 defs so does that mean the value I would see in that bin can't simply be used to plonk into the 4DED one? Hey mate, you just need to change TSTRAT to 0, as the description for the item explains. Hit View and Item Comments to see the descriptions for each item. I should put this in the guide, pretty important to know! the_fig wrote: ok here is an update mate what i have tryed bin 1 semi working injector slope set to stock 18.1 running at 43.5 psi tuned the VE table but it is so low like in the sigle digits i can drive around the block but cant give it throttle cause the AFR sky rockets i have also had it set 18.1 and run at 30 psi but i want to get full performance out of the injectors bin 2 not working injector slope set to 42lb/hr running at 43.5 psi calculated the percentage increase to 136% increase increased the VE by 36% it starts up but as soon as i touch the accelerator it dies if i ride the clutch to reverse and 1st i can get some movement before it dies again AFR sky rockets i also had a problem when running this if i left it in idle for about 40 sec it would start to increas AFR to 17-19 and then die back down to stoich any suggestion on what to try next thanks fig Marc, Aim for an injector slope around the high 20s or low 30s. Use the Fuel Stabilised Table to get more fuel in under boost. If you need me to create a base tune to get you started, PM me the details and order on the site. Cheers, Jason
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Coolies.
One more Q. Does the displacement need to be changed to 302ci or is their a reason for it being 2824.43ci in the 4ded bin ? |
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Hi mate,
The definition you have has #'s in front of that parameter - meaning the parameter is not yet fully defined. I have placed a new version on the site with a working displacement parameter. Cheers, Jason
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cheers jason ill give it another shot tomorrow morning
thanks fig |
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edit: Sorry nevermind, misread something.
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whooo snap i think i actually got it took it for a drive around the block and was nice with some power to it the only problem that i seem to be having now is that it only like drivings for about 40 sec then it doesnt like to run it cant be the start up table because i set it all to 0, any idead what it could be
like i said before if i leave in neutral idle runs at about 11 afr 40 secs later afr increases to 14.7 (it would increase even if it was at 14.7 already just to rule out self learning maybe) then dies back down to 11 but then doesnt want to drive got me stumped |
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Posts: 1139 Joined: 27th Feb 2005 Ride: Supercharged EF Fairmont Location: T.I. Performance HQ |
Hi Marc,
I can only suggest the VE cells for the area you are tuning are out of whack or the fuel startup table has been altered, but it's hard to know without seeing your tune. While i'm here... Just a short note to mention that we've just uploaded a guide on how to install and configure the TechEdge 2J Wideband O2 Logger to help tune your Falcon. Check it out at http://tiperformance.com.au/Technical/T ... 0Guide.pdf Remember we sell the TechEdge 2J at a discounted rate too! Cheers, Jason
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In the ve tables just wondering which way eec's are tuned to go when say you are at an rpm in between 2 given rpm figures in a table. For my AU one it starts with 600 and then 900 along the colums.. so if the engine is at 700rpm is the eec programed to go to the closest which is 600, or up to the next one (900) or does it calculate a new cell figure between whatever you have in those 2 rpm colums at the current map? (say it's 20inHG, and u have a ve of 20 and 40 in the 600 and 900 cells respectively, would the eec calculate a number of 25 or so for eg)
Hope iv'e made sense enough there
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