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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:37 pm 
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I bought one of these Chips off eBay nearly 2 months ago and have only installed it today and its made a huge difference :) Very Happy

I have a 1995 Ford EF Fairmont with a 977B cam, Pacemaker 4480's, Magnaflow HiFlow Cat, 2.5" Red back System and 3.23

Got it preprogramed with a setting for EF XR6 with a 977b, extractors and exhaust

Very Impressed, much more responsive, can feel the extra power and ever better shifts :) (may be due to resetting ecu) but still over all worth cheap purchase price...................

It will only get better from here ....................

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:56 am 
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If anyone has any EL xr6 bins (non hybrid engine) in the 64k format id be glad to give it a test!

i have been using the 6dnb bin so far (el police) would love to try an xr6 one :o
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:21 am 
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MontGas wrote:
If anyone has any EL xr6 bins


err, have you looked at the site? they are there dude.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:40 pm 
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MontGas I am in the process of writing something up for this. Work and family is a little crazy atm being so close to chrissy. If jason allows, I don't want to hijack his tread I will post it up.

I can give you the bin but since it is in a xh ute (read ed engine). It will no be suited to your task.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:08 pm 
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galapogos01 wrote:
MontGas wrote:
If anyone has any EL xr6 bins


err, have you looked at the site? they are there dude.


my bad, i ment to add for an auto, not a manual, if there is a 64k bin for an auto el xr6 please link me to it or send me it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:33 pm 
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The NL concorde bin that is there is for all intents and purposes an xr auto bin. Its the same engine.

If anyone in SE melbourne with an EL Auto XR6 reads this PM me and we can try to pull the bin.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:37 pm 
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and stupid question time, could this setup be used for a conversion ? i have a mate here with a petrol landcruiser who wants efi. if i got it running thinking it was an el, could i then tune it to suit ? or too hard ? and what about 4 cylinders ?

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:18 pm 
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hey i was wonderin which binary i would use for my auto 96 Gli on LPG it has a EEC V (or so it says on the air box) nd besides gas is completely stock. could i use a 6TGD or would i have to use a 6TGE?

thanks for the help
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:36 pm 
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briney wrote:
and stupid question time, could this setup be used for a conversion ? i have a mate here with a petrol landcruiser who wants efi. if i got it running thinking it was an el, could i then tune it to suit ? or too hard ? and what about 4 cylinders ?

this is not impossible for a 6cyl motor, if it had the same firing order, and you used a ford 36 tooth crank angle sensor and coilpacks, or a dizzy / TFI etc etc. in other words, itd probably be easier to use a 4L engine too.

you could probably get a 4cyl running on an A9L binary with an AFM, but thats not using the same definitions or code we are working on here.

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hey i was wonderin which binary i would use for my auto 96 Gli on LPG it has a EEC V (or so it says on the air box) nd besides gas is completely stock. could i use a 6TGD or would i have to use a 6TGE?

thanks for the help


The difference between those two seems pretty minor; the last digit generally refers to an update to the strategy. I didnt collect them so I cant confirm their source, I have them both listed as LPG. Either of these should be fine.

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:52 am 
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do u kno of anyone who has the same setup as me who has previously bought one? im not much of a tech head nd earlier on u mentioned u should monitor wat the chip does so it doesnt root ur car so im a wee bit scared :oops: wat sort of differences is there between the 6TGD nd 6TGE

thanks for all ur help gallopogos
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:03 pm 
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Would you be too worried to install an XR6 ECU? The change is almost identical. If you are in doubt, dont do it, but the changes are pretty minor and would be safe for most mild combos.

If in doubt, buy a NB02 gauge - Jaycar have kits for as little as $15 or you can buy premade gauges for under $100. Then you will know for certain if the car is running lean.
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:32 pm 
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thanks a guage is a good idea how much do u reckon an XR6 ECU would set me back?
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:32 pm 
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Me again, i went thru my spark maps and afr's savaged them up abit and i seem to have hit the sweet spot! put the chip in last night, hunting GONE lump GONE, and wipes crap in the face of petrol! i had it on petrol a few weeks ago no mixer setup for petrol felt pretty good over gas, but now this feels WAY better. put the throttle down some and it was like stepping on a land mine, i didnt expect it to take off like a shot! id be happy to share my modified bin. (keeping in mind its modified for GAS ONLY!)

Just adding to my post, id love to see a rip of a chiptorque chip or powerchip gold just to see really how much they change and where they think power gains are to be made. if anyone know where they look for power it would be appreciated!.
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:50 pm 
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Nice work. I found similar gains in advancing the spark. My def is on the site. Please email me the bin file, it is good to share this stuff so people have somewhere to start.

As I have mentioned previously, you would be suprised how little ChipTorque actually change for $200+/hr (+ chip), even in a 'warm' setup. They have never pushed their Falcon tuning stuff very hard anyway (probably as they get more margin and more customers for their Xede product and tuning of Subis etc).

At any rate, as you have found out, it doesnt take much to get some benefits from a simple edit.

Will be good once we get a few of these on a dyno and start to work with tuners who know where the 4L sweet spots are.

EL_lagoon wrote:
thanks a guage is a good idea how much do u reckon an XR6 ECU would set me back?


an XR6 ECU could be anything up to $700 depending on how (un)lucky you are.

Cheers,
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:19 pm 
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Do u kno if an ECU from an EF XR6 auto would fit an EL GLi auto? thanks for all your help man if u were in WA id buy a beer :)
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