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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:37 am 
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i might be able to get a redistribution deal through innovate (other places do) but im sure i couldnt match on prices due to the low volumes id be selling.

kade auto and marine were the best price in aussie when i bought my innovate gear. if you dont like the look of the innovate stuff try tech edge.
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:27 am 
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ive got the autometer wideband afr gauge, like it , self contained in the gauge uses 4.2 sensor and has 0-4 volt out for logging (ive got it hooked into the wolf v500)

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:38 pm 
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Just got a small question, Iv been guessing all along that the stablised A/f table is the is what Alters the VE table, say, The ecu is told VE value is 20 so the ecu throws the according fuel in then when the Oxygen sensor picks up that its running at 14.90 as opposed to the a/f table 14.70 i then makes the corrections to the VE in the KAM and fuel is then corrected. right? or wrong?

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:43 pm 
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The VE table is the base volumetric efficiency the ECU starts from when calculating how much fuel is required at a particular load point.

The stabilised table is the AFR the ECU will aim for when calculating fuel requirements in Closed Loop mode (i.e. not used during open loop, WOT, etc).

KAM fuel trims are stored when the EEC finds that the calculations based on VE used to aim for the AFR in the stabilised table are out by X percent (X being the trim value stored).

If the VE table is correct for an engine there will be no trims stored.

For 5Ls, replace VE table with MAF curve (effectively).

Lots more info about this in the eectech98 PDF doc.
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:39 pm 
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I,ve got a ef Series 1 5lt and I'm having issues with the fans staying on and the auto not holding the gear i select after trying a couple of different combos the car idles fine, it will just shift firmly through the gears regardless of what gear range i select, as soon as i that the chip out again it goes back to normal
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:33 am 
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I,ve got a ef Series 1 5lt and I'm having issues with the fans staying on and the auto not holding the gear i select after trying a couple of different combos the car idles fine, it will just shift firmly through the gears regardless of what gear range i select, as soon as i that the chip out again it goes back to normal


Hmm firstly, Jaysen's binary and definition support EL manuals and the 6TJC which appears to be an EL GT auto binary. Can you tell us what combos you were playing with?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:47 pm 
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ef jan 95 fairmont 5lt auto
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:10 pm 
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which bin and definition are you using?

as above, you can't use a EL def on an EF ECU - this may be the cause of your frustration.

start with something simple - burning an unmodified stock bin to a chip - and go from there.

Jason
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:01 pm 
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thanks mate
got the best results with the 6dfc xdf. and the 6dgd bin, is it ok to use an ef def and the el ghia bin
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:25 pm 
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The NMVG8 is newer and you should use that. 6DGD should work fine. Do you get fans on/limited operating strategy when using a stock 6DGD bin on the chip? If so you haven't cleaned the port right or have a problem with the burn.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:59 am 
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thanks jason I'll give that a crack tomorrow
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:58 pm 
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thanks Jason
that worked fine auto works as normal and the fan work as they should, i've got a turbo 6 as well that i've got a chip for aswell has anybody used a j3 chip with a boosted set up
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 Post subject: SMARTLOCK and your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:25 pm 
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If this has been answered previously, I am sorry.

Well, kind of sorry.
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A mate in NZ is in the process of setting up an EF MONT SEDAN for street stock circuit racing. He has removed dash and is doing the whole roll cage, battery in boot, locked diff - etc etc etc... Thing is, the EF ECU has SMARTLOCK function which he's tried to bypass somehow or other and failed. Result is engine will not crank I guess. Suggested to him to leave the BEM and a key barrel hidden in the car somewhere, but someones obviously told him a better way, which he's tried and now car is demobilised.

If I bought a couple of blank chips and a programmer could someone tell me how to disable smartlock with a such a chip, or is it simply not an option via this method?

I know there's $135 Aussie dollars for a plug in bypass module from this site... http://www.shiftkits.com.au/smartlock.aspx or
$125 AUSSIE from Melbourne E-BAY dealer....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Smartlock-Module ... 240%3A1318

But a blank chip is $100 so would actually be saving money and providing the option of being able to change the engines timing etc etc etc....
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:05 pm 
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I am awaiting help from another aussie to crack the smartlock enable bit within the EEC code. So far, im sorry to say this is not possible with the current definition.

EDIT: We can now bypass smartlock using a J3 chip!

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:27 am 
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Thanks mate. I could personally do with that function purely to allow me to put in my own security system, but there are a number of circuit racers etc etc who come up with this issue all the time and would be good for your product to be able to sort this issue if it's possible!!

I am still trying to get hold of a manual ECU locally in NZ but the guy who said he had some for $50 hasn't given me his bank account details in nine weeks to facilitate the transaction. EF XR6 ECU MANUAL is selling for $200 here, so your product is looking closer and closer. I've had my hand hovering over the credit card BUY NOW on your site a few times over the last few weeks... A bit like a young English bungee jumping tourist just not quite ready to take the plunge....
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