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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:40 pm 
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Got some good news for EA-ED owners, we've found the smartlock enable bit (thanks to XR9UTE for a very helpful hint here!!) in the I6 and V8 bins meaning we can avoid using a bypass when retrofitting newer ECUs to these cars. YAY!
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:13 pm 
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As FordFairmont said, chiptorque can suck my balls now, and i will definatly be buying one of you programmers and chips in mid march. I will now not be using my chiptorque chip for the prices reason.

I will now have the issue of finding someone with i good enough base tune to suit my cam, and them apply to your chip, so i have a question. I remember you saying that your programmer can (should) read a chiptorque, and i can then burn said tune onto your chip, so question is, can your programmer read any other J3 chips out there, or just your own and chiptorque?

And another question, although i dont expect you to know this, but do you know if i was to get your chip with an XR tune on it, will this do for now combined with a 1543b wade? as in be atleast better than standard tune?

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:47 pm 
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PIMP_LTD wrote:
As FordFairmont said, chiptorque can suck my balls now, and i will definatly be buying one of you programmers and chips in mid march. I will now not be using my chiptorque chip for the prices reason.

I will now have the issue of finding someone with i good enough base tune to suit my cam, and them apply to your chip, so i have a question. I remember you saying that your programmer can (should) read a chiptorque, and i can then burn said tune onto your chip, so question is, can your programmer read any other J3 chips out there, or just your own and chiptorque?

And another question, although i dont expect you to know this, but do you know if i was to get your chip with an XR tune on it, will this do for now combined with a 1543b wade? as in be atleast better than standard tune?

thanksyou :)


to help answer you last question Xr tunes are most different in there spark maps, theres also some small tweaks fuel wise.

also if anyone does get any in depth looks into chiptorque chips id think we all would like to know any findings, or some screen shots of there tables compared to stock.

and pimp id recommend getting the burner too as if unsatisfied with ur chip and loaded tune u can always change it or try other tunes. etc worth every cent to me! and the fun experimenting i sweet to.
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:18 pm 
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Hi Guys

I have a duel fuel EB cross EL and at the moment I am using an EL Ghia Ticky ECU. I also have a Ticky LPG ECU which has the better spark maps for LPG use.

Is it possible to create a hybrid bin with the XR Ticky Manual Petrol maps, and the Ticky LPG maps?

Or if this is not feasible, I will look into using the Ticky LPG ECU in a piggy back arrangement.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:27 pm 
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PIMP_LTD wrote:
so question is, can your programmer read any other J3 chips out there

it should read most chips out there (everything i've thrown at it) but im sure there are some that dont like being read :)
PIMP_LTD wrote:
do you know if i was to get your chip with an XR tune on it, will this do for now combined with a 1543b wade? as in be atleast better than standard tune?

in general xr ecus will handle cam changes better as the cam profile is slightly larger in the xr. they also put slightly less fuel in to compensate for the 300kpa reg and so this helps with idle with larger cams. there are bins to suit a wade 1521a on the site, might be a bit too big compared to the 1543b though? if you have a dyno sheet i can do custom something up too. you can always buy the programmer later if you need to tweak it.
BenJ wrote:
Is it possible to create a hybrid bin with the XR Ticky Manual Petrol maps, and the Ticky LPG maps?

yes this is possible.

Cheers for the feedback guys,
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:39 pm 
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BenJ wrote:
Is it possible to create a hybrid bin with the XR Ticky Manual Petrol maps, and the Ticky LPG maps?

yes this is possible.

Jason


OK, then this sounds very promising. Is someone able to have a stab at this? Or is it time for me to brush the cobwebs out of my grey matter, download the two bins and start from scratch?

Not sure if I am capable of that.

Any takers on creating a Hybrid EL XR Manual and Tickford LPG?

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:47 am 
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Any chance of us getting any El non hybrid xr6 AUTO bings in 64k?

Thanks!
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:35 pm 
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So I'm converting my EA with BBM and EL ecu to manual soon. Let me get this straight, I can buy an XR6 EL Manual chip off you guys for AU$130? If so that's f**k awesome! If I get the pre programmed one I can later tune it myself yes?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:42 pm 
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NZEA wrote:
So I'm converting my EA with BBM and EL ecu to manual soon. Let me get this straight, I can buy an XR6 EL Manual chip off you guys for AU$130? If so that's f**k awesome! If I get the pre programmed one I can later tune it myself yes?

Yes. Yes and yes. As long as you buy a programmer. We could go halves in the programmer since we both broke NZ brothers.

What I was saying on the other thread is that they have also now been able to get rid of the smartlock thing so you can sell your smartlock bypass for $100.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:47 pm 
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EDIT Sweet

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:56 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:58 pm 
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NZEA wrote:
Because I'll be able to put the chip on the old MPFI ecu to make it an EL BBM one?

I deleted that bit from my message, above, as I think the pin outs are different. But you must be on line at the same time as me and caught me out. So you'll need to keep your EL ECU and therefore the stockcar driver in question will be keeping his coils and not putting in a dizzy.
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:11 pm 
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EA-ED & EL use the same 60pin connector with minor differences.

the EF+ ECUs are much newer, have faster processors and more memory. EL bins wont run on the older ECUs.

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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:29 pm 
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galapogos01 wrote:
EA-ED & EL use the same 60pin connector with minor differences.

the EF+ ECUs are much newer, have faster processors and more memory. EL bins wont run on the older ECUs.

Jsaon


Well how about that, thanks Jason.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:50 pm 
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galapogos01 wrote:
PIMP_LTD wrote:
do you know if i was to get your chip with an XR tune on it, will this do for now combined with a 1543b wade? as in be atleast better than standard tune?

in general xr ecus will handle cam changes better as the cam profile is slightly larger in the xr. they also put slightly less fuel in to compensate for the 300kpa reg and so this helps with idle with larger cams. there are bins to suit a wade 1521a on the site, might be a bit too big compared to the 1543b though? if you have a dyno sheet i can do custom something up too. you can always buy the programmer later if you need to tweak it.

Jason

I see, good kind of news. looking at the cam specs and comparing the 1521 and my 1543, the specs aren't drastically different, so these bins might be the most suitable thing that i can use and base mapping.

Is it possible i can get the programmer kit and chip with the chip pre-programmed with this 1521a tune?

 

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