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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:50 pm 
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Hey Jason, just putting thru my order now, I know I said I would a few months ago but a few things came up between then and now. I would also be interested in the wb sensor pack at a later date too.
Now without the tuning tools, would you rekon a mix of the XR tune and your 1521a tune would be any good for my 1673? I'ma have a stab and say yes. My mods are in my sig if that would help.
Cheers, looking forward to receiving the chip n programmer :)

also, the does the ECU have anything to do with the speedo signal? if so can you change it?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:22 pm 
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from my experience i had a custom 1521a tune done at chiptorque which was fine, but when i swapped the cam for a smaller 977b and ran the existing tune, there were spluttering & hesistation issues at part throttle so the tune wasnt very good with smaller cams.
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:02 pm 
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Yah, thats why I thought it would be possible to blend the 2 tunes of XR and 1521a together, as the 1673 would be fairly well between the XR cam and the 1521a.
I guess I'll find out when i get the gear and have go lol!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:16 pm 
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I have some news guys - I may be able to offer a discounted DIY tuning package, including a WBO2 sensor, controller, display, along with a TI Performance programmer and chip. I will be partnering with a well known WB controller company to offer this package.

Can I have a bit of a show of interest to see who would be interested in purchasing such a kit? The price will be in the vicinity of $550 - though there are still a few things to be done to sort out a final price. This is a fair whack off retail and will include logging functionality (2x inputs + RPM + VSS) and everything needed to DIY tune an EA-EL Falcon.

For customers who already have purchased one of our combo kits, I may be able to offer a discounted WBO2 sensor, controller, display kit too.

If you are interested please let me know! If interest is good I may start a new thread on this.

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Hey mate,

Just wondering what this would allow you to do that you can't do at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:12 pm 
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View/datalog your AFRs and 4 other inputs inc RPM and VSS.
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:08 pm 
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Hey, did you see my previous posts? :idea:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:10 pm 
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Yes, your question has been answered though? I could make up a bin if you like, use the custom bin option on the site.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:20 pm 
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Yah was just checking that you saw I ordered and would be interested in the tuning pack.
What would I need to 'blend' from the tunes?
I've already done the VE table and cold start I think, cant remember was a while ago now. I used your tune and the XR manual one.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:18 pm 
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Yeah I would be intersted for sure. I've already got the chip obviously but the other stuff for sure.

Nice work mate. Let me know mate

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:14 pm 
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Hi all! I've just been reading this thread from start to finish and had a look at the web site, i think my brain is now full! I'm very impressed by the developments made here, good work!

I now intend to purchase one of your chips. I am doing some mods on a EF Futura as a budget club racer, most of its time will be on the track, although it is still registered. ATM, I'm fitting a cam (Wade 1673) and doing a manual conversion. It's got PH4499's, 2.5" straight through system, 3" intake with pod, engine is stock with 20 thou off the head and has std 3.08 gears for the moment (need to work out whats the best all round ratio for the tracks) So, it's pretty much the same spec as krisisdog's setup.

While I'm very interested in this stuff, I'm not confident at this stage to do my own tuning, I'll need to research and learn some more first (even though I am a mechanic). Therefore, initially I will buy a preprogrammed chip. My question is, do you have an existing tune that would be suitable for this setup?

Thanks for your help.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:37 pm 
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Hi Tony,

Will reply via PM.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:09 pm 
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Jason, you get my pm :oops:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:03 am 
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23 pages, ugggh, my head hurts.

I'm interested in the custom tune chip for $200 (although i would love to get the kit with datalogging but dont wont to miss one tiny thing in setup and blow my engine, but if I knew how to tune a longer duration cam, Tighe 826 to be exact, and higher compression pistons I would do it myself)

Question is with $200 custom chip, adjusting the fuel map would be simple by viewing what the AFR is on the dyno sheet (but is this just at WOT, how do you adjust for part throttles to my cam?) And how would you adjust the spark map?? Is this a case of getting the Cam specs and adjusting the timing from this?

Like I said, i'd like to have someone with more experience tune my car, But what limitations are there with only a dyno sheet and a list of mods to get the best performance? I have to admit that saving $1300 there would be some limitations doing it this way, but can you elaborate?
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going in a different direction, (my car ef futura auto with 3.45 instead of 3.08) - If I got an Xr6 or ghia chip for $130, would the more aggressive spark/fuel help much, especially now I have the same diff as xr6?

I think the only difference in cam profile (standard to xr6) is that the exhaust is open for 4/5 degrees longer.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:38 pm 
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Hi there,

Ignition timing and part-throttle fuel maps can be guesstimated based on experience and knowledge about the combo, along with a dyno sheet. This will obviously be a bit more reserved than a full dyno tune, for safety, but one can get pretty close. The difference would depend on the individual car.

A lot of people notice a big difference in an XR6 map, but there is a lot more to be had in terms of both fuel and spark, especially if you're running a warmer cam.

If you're in Melbourne, you have the option of using CVE Performance to do a dyno tune, if you find the pre-programmed chip isnt solving your existing mappings' problems.

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: Tuning your EF/EL Falcon EEC-V with a J3 chip
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Minor update guys to let you know we havent fallen off the planet. We now support some AU V8's along with EB/ED I6 (for those who dont want to run an EL ECU) and V8s. This involved a hardware revision along with some work on the AU V8 definitions from Matthew Withey at AFF & Jaysen Anderson from FM. If you plan to use the gear on AU please let me know so I can ensure you get the correct programmer and that your ECU is supported.

We're also getting some stickers made up which will be free with any chips purchased.

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