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I'm trying to work out the best/cheapest way to modify the EF so it puts out the same as a twin turbo supra (208kw).
So will standard sort of stuff, nice big extractors, new cams, exhaust and a bigger intake be enough to pull it off??
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| GeZza200 |
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208kw would probly be 140-150rwkw for an E-series falcon, yeah Full exhaust system, good CAI, good cam and maybe a tune it should pull that.
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engine or wheels is the question?
im guessing you mean engine so cam, exhaust/headers, tune should put you close as depending on bottom end health. might need to raise the comp just slightly to help things along.
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| Steady ED |
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Knock the plural off cams, add headwork by someone reputable and a decent tune and you'll get it.
Supra will still be quicker though.
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| skidder |
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Steady ED wrote: Knock the plural off cams, add headwork by someone reputable and a decent tune and you'll get it.
Supra will still be quicker though. ditto...you're gonna need a f**k more torque/4.11's to beat a supra, even n/a they're pretty quick (14.9 for a quarter v 16 or so for a falcon with 3.08)
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NA there slow as s**t, iv killed all NA supras iv run into.
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135rwkw (with the right torque curve to go with it) should see you crack 14.9
just the basic mods: exhaust, extractors, intake, 3.45 diff gears, and a QUALITY cam grind will easily get you over the line if you have an auto, then good luck NA supras are not quick, i raced one not long ago and it ran a 15.4
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FAST-XR wrote: NA supras are not quick, i raced one not long ago and it ran a 15.4
s**t driver...
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Gezza200 You either talk a lot of crap or have one of those freak Fords that just seem to go really hard for no real reason. A stock supra will murder an EL Ford all day long unless A. The supra was stuffed, B. He wasnt trying C. He cant drive.
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| skidder |
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is your car stock? my mate had one and stock for stock it would rape my auto el. With an exhaust, tune and diff change it pulls low 14's.
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is the falcon or the supra pulling the low 14s?
ill back up Gezza200, NA they are slow.ive raced against on 3 time i one night, all mid 15s, destroyed it by at least a second each time, i think you are giving them too much credit... but in saying that im not sure how quick the turbo models are...
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| Steady ED |
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208 turbo kw beats 208 N/A kw.
Gezza, what does your car run down the quarter, you talk it up like it's a monster.
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| skidder |
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the supra, with diff change, exhaust and a tune pulled a 14.2....I'm not saying a falcon couldnt do this, but you would need more engine work.
If your goal is to beat a stock supra, then the easiest way will be 3.9 or 4.11's, exhaust and cam. edit: haha i just read he is talking about beating twin turbo supra's. I thought these pulled 14's or just under stock? If that is what you want to achieve plan for a rebuild with 9.5 or so compression, headwork to suit torque production mainly 3000-6000rpm and a cam to suit. With manual get 3.7 gears, or with auto a highstall and 4.11's. Grechie I'm pretty sure got 13.7 with stock head but 9.5 compression, 1673 cam, t5 and 3.7 diff gears, but i think his car is a bit of a freak (plus weighs less than an ef).
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plus if he has a turbo supra all he has to do is up the boost and he should run low 13's easy, those engines are tough as
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| Steady ED |
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Decent condition JZA80 2JZGTE Supra will do 13s off the bat.
They don't even have to run more boost to go quicker, just run the stock turbos parallel.
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