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you can definately clean them.
maybe give them a clean and put them back in to see if that is indeed whats causing them to start misfiring. also take the throttle body off and have a look inside the intake manifold, let us know what you see in there also  edit - sorry you said they looked like number 2, so they are dry and black? not wet, gunky and black like covered in oil?
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misk_one wrote: you can definately clean them. maybe give them a clean and put them back in to see if that is indeed whats causing them to start misfiring. also take the throttle body off and have a look inside the intake manifold, let us know what you see in there also edit - sorry you said they looked like number 2, so they are dry and black? not wet, gunky and black like covered in oil? yep definately dry and black (number 2), double checked the set that i put in 100km's ago all 6 of them, but its not exactly as in the picture. the nose and electrode aren't black, everything else is. |
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this is more or less how all the spark plugs look after ~ 200km's of driving.
i'm not sure how much it resembles the picture from the other diagram, but the residue on it is dry and black. sorry about the photo quality, phone camera doesnt do close-up focus. Attachment: File comment: spark plug colour
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New coilpack, new dizzy, new plugs,new gas leads, tune on petrol, got 800klms and engine cut out, all codes checked no faults on codes, compression test, fitted newBP6EY plugs, still won't start, backfiring through air pod cleaner ???
Have now spent $2000.00 on this problem so far and still not running, was running great before trip, out on open road and it just stopped and would not restart. Coil packs that can handle dual- fuel, any help with this much appreciated.  Moreton 
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what part of brissy are you in and dont be too pacific.
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moreton wrote: New coilpack, new dizzy, new plugs,new gas leads, tune on petrol, got 800klms and engine cut out, all codes checked no faults on codes, compression test, fitted newBP6EY plugs, still won't start, backfiring through air pod cleaner ??? Have now spent $2000.00 on this problem so far and still not running, was running great before trip, out on open road and it just stopped and would not restart. Coil packs that can handle dual- fuel, any help with this much appreciated. Moreton Back firing thru the filter suggests the timing is way out, has the dizzy moved at all? Cheers ToranaGuy
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New battery, new coil pack, new distributor got 800klms and stoped Two mechanics have attended to car, timing is set to no.1, spark is there, compression checked, fuel system checked, injectors / pulse checked, car cranks over, wets plugs but won't fire. Any sugestions??????????? $380 spent now still won't run. Possessed Ford? Moreton
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moreton wrote: New battery, new coil pack, new distributor got 800klms and stoped Two mechanics have attended to car, timing is set to no.1, spark is there, compression checked, fuel system checked, injectors / pulse checked, car cranks over, wets plugs but won't fire. Any sugestions??????????? $380 spent now still won't run. Possessed Ford? Moreton So it has spark (when a plug & lead is removed from cyl & earthed you can see a spark jumping the gap?) but it won't fire? Cheers ToranaGuy
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youd have to assume that the timing is still out...
have you tried playing with the cam sensor thingo a bit? i know you have said its set to TDC, but i've always had to play with the dizzy even when its set to TDC to get the car to start easily after having timing issues
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well if the Mechanic cant find the problem only solution now is wind the window down and throw a match inside and run like hell
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misk_one wrote: youd have to assume that the timing is still out... have you tried playing with the cam sensor thingo a bit? i know you have said its set to TDC, but i've always had to play with the dizzy even when its set to TDC to get the car to start easily after having timing issues You would know if the timing is out badly. It would be firing way to early or late, resulting in backfiring thru the intake, probably damaged plastics, or thru the exhaust, the engine will sound wrong, and possibly blow up a muffler if it feels like it. IF it's not too far out, it will run, but badly, coughing & spluttering as it does. Rotating the dizzy / cam sensor will either improve or make it worse, giving an idea of what way it needs to be rotated to improve the situation. I had the timing wrong in my torana years ago, after i had to replace the dizzy, the engine wizzed over a couple of times, then a huge BANG as it tried to fire & ignited all the fuel in the exhaust & muffler. I sent that muffler to hell that day! Cheers ToranaGuy
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Turns out the Timing on the XH 96 Utility is totally controled by ECU, distributor sensor so it looks like I need another ECU for vehicle or a reconditioned ECU, does anyone know of any businesses that do reco ECU for Ford ???? I have not found the matches yet??? Many thanks to you all for the help.
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Hi Guys,
Just got ute back from mechanics, turns out wiring harness was crushed against fire wall and bundle of wires going to and from ecu were all shorting together and sending all the wrong information to all points of the system. Hit extra large pothole in road about 3 seconds before engine cut out, so after 4 mechanics and 1 auto/electrician she now runs again like a new car. Turns out not to be possessed, just bad road conditions caused all my greif, should the government be held responsible for my repairs ??????????? Cheers Moreton
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moreton wrote: Hi Guys, Glad to hear it is all sorted. For those having similar undiagnosed problems, the crushed wiring harness might be a good place to start.Just got ute back from mechanics, turns out wiring harness was crushed against fire wall and bundle of wires going to and from ecu were all shorting together and sending all the wrong information to all points of the system. Hit extra large pothole in road about 3 seconds before engine cut out, so after 4 mechanics and 1 auto/electrician she now runs again like a new car. Turns out not to be possessed, just bad road conditions caused all my greif, should the government be held responsible for my repairs ??????????? Cheers Moreton PS Send off a letter to council for some laughs. At least it lets them know of the problem. I've heard of cracked / damaged rims being replaced by councils etc. |
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Far out, crushed wiring loom. Wouldn't have guessed that one. I better check over my loom, i have intermittent issues when the EB Ghia is cold but warm enough to switch over to LPG, so i'm going to check over the wiring loom at the top of the firewall, where the LPG loom has been spliced into the factory loom, see what's going on there. It's fine when it's at operating temp, and i've looked over & replaced many other things, so time to check over the loom.
Cheers ToranaGuy
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