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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:05 pm 
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Here's my recommendation FWIW:
- Diff oil: Redline Synthetic 80W140 Gear Oil (already has the additive for LSDs)
- Brake Fluid - Dot 4 or 5.1 (NOT 5) with as high a wet boiling point as possible - preferably over 200C/392F. I use Motul RBF600 Dot 4 (wet boiling point 205C). It is also sold as "own brands" by some auto stores (same bottle and product, different label) - anything over 200C wet and 300C dry in a grey bottle is probably RBF600.
- PS Fluid - Valvoline makes one especially for the Falcon called Formula F
- Spark plugs - Autolite 985 is the plug JMM supply. I use them in both my XR6s. Fun fact: they are also used in the Dodge Viper V10 :D Don't know if the claim of more kw is true, but they do work fine, and are priced right, so no harm done.

Enjoy your Falcon!

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:15 pm 
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efxr6wagon wrote:
Here's my recommendation FWIW:
- Diff oil: Redline Synthetic 80W140 Gear Oil (already has the additive for LSDs)
- Brake Fluid - Dot 4 or 5.1 (NOT 5) with as high a wet boiling point as possible - preferably over 200C/392F. I use Motul RBF600 Dot 4 (wet boiling point 205C). It is also sold as "own brands" by some auto stores (same bottle and product, different label) - anything over 200C wet and 300C dry in a grey bottle is probably RBF600.
- PS Fluid - Valvoline makes one especially for the Falcon called Formula F
- Spark plugs - Autolite 985 is the plug JMM supply. I use them in both my XR6s. Fun fact: they are also used in the Dodge Viper V10 :D Don't know if the claim of more kw is true, but they do work fine, and are priced right, so no harm done.

Enjoy your Falcon!



Any idea the amounts of each ill need? sorry to be a pain.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Diff needs about 1.6-1.7L of oil, so buy 2 litres.
Brake fluid I think takes about one litre.
The manual says .95 litre for the power steering.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:32 pm 
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efxr6wagon wrote:
Diff needs about 1.6-1.7L of oil, so buy 2 litres.
Brake fluid I think takes about one litre.
The manual says .95 litre for the power steering.


Suggestion for auto fluid?

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:04 pm 
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The BTR requires a specific formulation, so I'm not aware of many options for going to a premium fluid. But the standard ATFs available for the BTR seem to do a good job:
Penrite ATF LE
Castrol TQ95
Mobil ATF 95LE
etc.

Nulon make a fully-synthetic Multi-Vehicle fluid that they say is suitable for the BTR, so this could be good.

The last time I had my EF transmission serviced, the shop started with a standard Sinopec ATF (Dexron, I believe), and added an special BTR additive to make into a BTR fluid. Presumably, you could buy this additive and add it to any top-shelf ATF you wanted; but I haven't been able to find the additive available retail. Maybe it's a trade-only thing.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:25 pm 
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efxr6wagon wrote:
The BTR requires a specific formulation, so I'm not aware of many options for going to a premium fluid. But the standard ATFs available for the BTR seem to do a good job:
Penrite ATF LE
Castrol TQ95
Mobil ATF 95LE
etc.

Nulon make a fully-synthetic Multi-Vehicle fluid that they say is suitable for the BTR, so this could be good.

The last time I had my EF transmission serviced, the shop started with a standard Sinopec ATF (Dexron, I believe), and added an special BTR additive to make into a BTR fluid. Presumably, you could buy this additive and add it to any top-shelf ATF you wanted; but I haven't been able to find the additive available retail. Maybe it's a trade-only thing.


our south africano brothers would kill for that additive

but yes thats a US kind of thingo we need to get our hands on that formula
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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Here's a company that sells it in Australia, but it sounds like they sell it only to trade customers:
http://www.prostream.com.au/s.nl/it.A/id.96/.f

Worth a shot anyway.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:25 pm 
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Penrite sin ATF is good. Valvoline do a 95LE Wich is good too.
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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:07 pm 
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somebody should try transmax Z with some additive full synthetic i didn't have the balls to use in my EA
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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:08 pm 
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FordFairmont wrote:
just stop right now, just stop.

your gonna invest a couple hundred a week in this AU to turn it into a 15k modded beast. Go out and finance a VXII Clubsport R8 for the same coin and end up with a better car with better everything, and will still be worth something when your finished having fun


Isn't this website called Fordmods? Why are we telling a bloke he's stupid to spend so much on modding his falcon and to buy a standard Commodore instead?

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:42 pm 
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sd1800 wrote:
FordFairmont wrote:
just stop right now, just stop.

your gonna invest a couple hundred a week in this AU to turn it into a 15k modded beast. Go out and finance a VXII Clubsport R8 for the same coin and end up with a better car with better everything, and will still be worth something when your finished having fun


Isn't this website called Fordmods? Why are we telling a bloke he's stupid to spend so much on modding his falcon and to buy a standard Commodore instead?


Because for the same dollar figure it's going to be faster. A basic exhaust/headers and cam shaft change will put you at around 330rwkw and it doesn't cost much. It's been proven over and over and over.
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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:08 pm 
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Edit: nevermind.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:44 pm 
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lol you have to sell the ford first.... can't give them away at the moment.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:55 pm 
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low_ryda wrote:
lol you have to sell the ford first.... can't give them away at the moment.


+1 on that....lol
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 Post subject: Re: 330,000 Kms, Rebuild VS Replace, + Servicing advice + Power
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:12 pm 
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efxr6wagon wrote:
Here's a company that sells it in Australia, but it sounds like they sell it only to trade customers:
http://www.prostream.com.au/s.nl/it.A/id.96/.f


The additive is called Lubegard BTR ATF Conversion Formula in a 300ml bottle - enough to treat a complete transmission fill.
http://www.lubegard.com/SearchByCategor ... n+Formula#

I found a supplier in New Zealand:
http://www.atpnz.co.nz/index.php
The bottle cost me only NZ$20.60 (about A$16) plus courier, and it converts ANY Dexron-type ATF into a BTR ATF - so we are not limited to ATFs designed specifically for the BTR auto.

 

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