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Mate just threw in a stroked ecotec 4.2 in his vp wagon. whippled, intercooled..the works. Hoping for about 500hp at the wheels.
After watching the saloon cars go head to head on the weekend, i dont doubt holdens power...even if it is just stock vs stock.
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doofus wrote: Mate just threw in a stroked ecotec 4.2 in his vp wagon. whippled, intercooled..the works. Hoping for about 500hp at the wheels.
After watching the saloon cars go head to head on the weekend, i dont doubt holdens power...even if it is just stock vs stock. man that wouldnt be a cheap motor
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heh tell me about it. he just put it in and has done about 700ks worth of running in. Waiting till about 1000k's before he hits the dyno for a proper tune.
His old motor put out about 410+rwhp on stock internals with 10psi boost...before it blew up. Daily driver btw. These ecotecs are getting there for a lil b**ch motor.
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yeah the stroked ecotecs are very quick, which is suprising cause the stocko's are such s**t lol
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I doubt that the extra .4Lt makes all that much difference....there must be a huge amount of port work, pistons...not to mention balancing, these things are rough as guts
but what i want to know is how far the I6 is behind
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Just a six ran a high 12 last time i saw it. VN or VP.
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i have seen a au 4L i6 race car make 290+ hp at the tires but was far from a streeter.
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my bosses 4.0 made 270 fwkw, running tripple su's on methanol... anything is possible.. u just gota cheat a little
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This is a vehicle that my brother in laws boss owns. Its a VT V6
The motor is different. Stroked to 4.4L with steel offset crank, 4 bolt mains, roller rockers, O ringed block, and then there are the heads. The heads are worth more than my car, they are based on a different setup, but have been made to suit. Has had about 40 grand thrown at the motor, driveline and setup, as well as the car, About 3 weeks ago it made 605 rwhp on 18 psi, it will be stepped up once they get a few things sorted with the rockers as well as the bottom end. 
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i think the belts a bit loose
 
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schnoods wrote: This is a vehicle that my brother in laws boss owns. Its a VT V6
The motor is different. Stroked to 4.4L with steel offset crank, 4 bolt mains, roller rockers, O ringed block, and then there are the heads. The heads are worth more than my car, they are based on a different setup, but have been made to suit. Has had about 40 grand thrown at the motor, driveline and setup, as well as the car, About 3 weeks ago it made 605 rwhp on 18 psi, it will be stepped up once they get a few things sorted with the rockers as well as the bottom end. not to discredit that car as 600hp at the wheels would be a hell of a ride... but Pyroay made 451rwkw which equates to 604ish rwhp with a turbo falcon 6.. IIRC he said it had more in it but needed a bigger turbo.. -mitch
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mitchg911 wrote: schnoods wrote: This is a vehicle that my brother in laws boss owns. Its a VT V6 The motor is different. Stroked to 4.4L with steel offset crank, 4 bolt mains, roller rockers, O ringed block, and then there are the heads. The heads are worth more than my car, they are based on a different setup, but have been made to suit. Has had about 40 grand thrown at the motor, driveline and setup, as well as the car, About 3 weeks ago it made 605 rwhp on 18 psi, it will be stepped up once they get a few things sorted with the rockers as well as the bottom end. not to discredit that car as 600hp at the wheels would be a hell of a ride... but Pyroay made 451rwkw which equates to 604ish rwhp with a turbo falcon 6.. IIRC he said it had more in it but needed a bigger turbo.. -mitch yes thats what i want to here....go the I6!!
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Why you would bother with rattly old Buick is beyond me.. either the Holden 5.0 or LS1 is a much better place to start if you want big power.
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Well the car was built for 2 reasons, One was to crack a low 9 with the bottle to get the crown of the fastest ecotec in Aus, second reason was to give a big up yours to CMP (chris mills perfomance, Long story).
Im not a fan of it either but I have heard it once on boost on a dyno and it did sound great. It ran 18psi then, it will be running closer to 25 when its ready for a track tune. As for Pyroay, after a Mystery Monday a month ago (street drag) it ended up doing a 16.5 after wheel spin all through the gears, and something chronic happening with the motor, in the pit it sounded like a coffee grinder. But saying that the car was daily driven and maybe fresh it would've handled a helluva lot more, hearing that car on boost was a privelige I cherished.
Dont like the buicks either, but with enough money thrown at it it can move, though I reckon if it wasnt for the blocks and bottom ends on the falcon, we'd have alot more seeing heaps more power.
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doofus wrote: Mate just threw in a stroked ecotec 4.2 in his vp wagon. whippled, intercooled..the works. Hoping for about 500hp at the wheels.
After watching the saloon cars go head to head on the weekend, i dont doubt holdens power...even if it is just stock vs stock. The Falcon's have been hamstrung to allow even competition. I know the Commo's get shorter diff gearing, I think the Falcons have to carry ballast and a few other things. IMO, the buick is second rate in every way except stock economy compared to the i6. |
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