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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:12 pm 
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We all love our fords, Im sure we all use proper fuel, so if our cars are designed to run on 95 octane and we use 98 octane, should we be advancing the timing to reap some benefits??

What sort of benefit will we see, how do we advance the timing on the i6?

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:21 pm 
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AFAIK they are designed to run on 91 octane

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:25 pm 
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that doesnt answer my question?

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:26 pm 
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Yeah... standard tune for 91 so if running 95/98 then there are gains to be had upping the timing. Dunno about outright kw but should make better torque throughout the curve... pull harder etc...

Put the ECU into diagnostic mode... wait until revs chill out then adjust the dizzy just like any other car... timing light can be of some help here...

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:28 pm 
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i belive you can get some benifits from advancing the timing a little if your running 98 octane. no sure how much, maybe 4-5kw?

on the |6, as you have an EL, its a matter of puttin the car into diagnostic mode? and using a timing light and turning the dizzy a little.

*edit, beaten by ^ again.. shouldnt you be working or something? :P

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:33 pm 
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Sorry Im full of questions. how do you put ecu in diagnotics mode??

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:33 pm 
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Can I get someone to do this for me? lol. I don't even know what a distributor is haha
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:40 pm 
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soulfire wrote:
Can I get someone to do this for me? lol. I don't even know what a distributor is haha

The dizzy is that thing that is REALLY f**k hard to get too :P
What the spark plug leads plug into.
Diagnostic mode for EA-ED is done by connecting the upper and lower far left pins, on the diagnostics port under the fuse panel.
Alternatively you can earth the top left pin somewwere if you can't join the two clips together.
When they're connected, start the car.
Revs will pick up for a bit, then drop back down.
Once it's dropped down, you can set the timing.
It's the same basic theory for EL's, except I'm not sure if the diagnostic mode thing is the same.
And all you suckers with EF 4L's can't do it!! Ha ha ha!

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:43 pm 
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Sorry mate, I dont get my elbows dirty. What girl wants a leather skinned, black fingernailed, weed. Pass me the toilet paper will ya, wipers!! wipers!! :lol:

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:03 pm 
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You can advance it 2 degrees and your power curve will be smoother IE no bumps, smoother acceleration.

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:27 pm 
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Sorry mate, I dont get my elbows dirty. What girl wants a leather skinned, black fingernailed, weed. Pass me the toilet paper will ya, wipers!! wipers!! :lol:


well wat are u doin on a modification site...you are a joke

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:36 pm 
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EB V8 wrote:
Sorry mate, I dont get my elbows dirty. What girl wants a leather skinned, black fingernailed, weed. Pass me the toilet paper will ya, wipers!! wipers!! :lol:


well wat are u doin on a modification site...you are a joke


HAHAHAHA I agree with Pulco, EB V8, you're a p***y

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:17 pm 
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you can advance it a s**t load, especially once you have a good cam in there aswell, factory they are set at 10 deg. with mine i have had it running at 22 deg on optimax, no pinging and drives great.

even right now with no extractors, std exhaust, and normal 91 RON ulp i am still running it at 18 deg, still no pinging. (but not the std cam).

i would have thought you could at least go to around 14-15 deg with the std cam running premium unleaded.

 

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EB V8 wrote:
Sorry mate, I dont get my elbows dirty. What girl wants a leather skinned, black fingernailed, weed. Pass me the toilet paper will ya, wipers!! wipers!! :lol:



So what will you do when your girl wants you to service her car or it breaks down??

call racv?.

Dont worry if i see her broken down on the road ILL pull over and give her a hand......;)

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:45 pm 
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you guys talk about specific numbers of degrees...how the hell are you supposed ot know when you have adavnced it 12 degress or 15 degrees or whatever...how much visibly does that equate to..ie can someone give a ballpark figure for mm moved for every degree or something?
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