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 Post subject: advancing my timing
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:31 pm 
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im in a mood to play with my car a bit i am installing bigger lowering blocks to morrow and a pod filter and i thought ill see how it goes if i advance the timing a few degrees can anyone tell me how to do this i know i have to rotate the dizzy anti clockwise but how far is safe????? does the engine need to be at TDC

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:21 pm 
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First of all, warm the engine to proper operating temperature. Then short the two terminals on the far left of the diagnostic plug to each other. ie. the top left and bottom left terminals. The idle should change telling you it's in setting the ignition timing mode. You have about a minute to adjust the timing before it goes back to normal timing. Adjust timing to suit. Obviously don't go too far or it will ping and destroy the engine. The higher the octane in the fuel, the further you can advance the timing.

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:22 pm 
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I'm assuming it's a six cylinder.

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:25 pm 
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If you want to play with the timing, i'd get a vernier cam sprocket. Advance it about 2 - 2.5 degrees, retard the ignition timing a couple of degrees as well. Apparently you may lose abit of low down power, but up top the difference will be alot better. I've got this setup but havent tried it yet. Still set at standard timing, but i'm gonna give it a go one of these days.

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:02 am 
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If you advance the cam timing, you get more torque lower in the rev range...if you retard the cam timing, comes in later.

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:35 pm 
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I'm looking in to advance my timing but I'm a bit confused. So if u loosen the dizzy cap while the car is running couldn't you get shocked :shock: ?

But then if u turn the car off it wont be in base timing.

I'm thinking u have the car running in base mode and loosen the dizzzy and turn it anti clockwise to advance being careful not to get zapped lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:44 pm 
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Ive never been zapped lol, ive changed the timing in all my cars with dizzys

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:50 pm 
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That's good then i was just curious about touching it and getting zapped .
I know what to do now

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:19 pm 
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if you get zapped, you need new leads.

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:23 pm 
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I'm going to replace the leads while I'm at it

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:18 pm 
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I've had look at the dizzy and I can't see the 13 mm nut to loosen it, unless it's under the dizzy cap, if I take that off won't the car stop running ?? :?
I understand everything else just not how to loosen the dizzy

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:19 pm 
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I've had look at the dizzy and I can't see the 13 mm nut to loosen it, unless it's under the dizzy cap, if I take that off won't the car stop running ?? :?
I understand everything else just not how to loosen the dizzy

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:24 pm 
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I dont know about falcons but I should be visible on the side somwhere,

 

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:28 pm 
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I though it was on the top??
I havnt checked the sides yet :P

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 Post subject: Re: advancing my timing
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:39 pm 
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One method (maybe not the preferred one) of adjusting the timing: Advance it a little, then test for ping by flooring it under full load (eg, uphill) at low revs. If it pings, go back a little and you're done. If it doesn't ping, advance it some more and test again. It's crude, but effective, and should be quite safe if you advance in small steps.

 

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