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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:29 pm 
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Hey does anyone know if the idler shaft run off the timing chain which drives the oil pump and syncronizer are the same between au and an ef engine?

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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:32 pm 
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From EA to AU they are the same. :)
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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:36 pm 
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thanks for that george, you wouldnt know how to change one would you?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:40 pm 
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if your talking about the aux shaft?

the sump needs to be removed ,the harmonic balancer needs to be removed, the timing chain tensioner removed, timing case needs to be removed, the timing chain needs to be removed, the aux shaft chain gear needs to come off, then there are 2 small hex key bolts that hold the retainer plate that need to be removed, then you just pull the shaft out....
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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:45 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
if your talking about the aux shaft?

the sump needs to be removed ,the harmonic balancer needs to be removed, the timing chain tensioner removed, timing case needs to be removed, the timing chain needs to be removed, the aux shaft chain gear needs to come off, then there are 2 small hex key bolts that hold the retainer plate that need to be removed, then you just pull the shaft out....


all that effort gees, makes a dohc conversion sound easy

 

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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:46 pm 
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just put another au engine in... stil much much cheaper and easier than the dohc

i told you the aux shaft was going to fail, after the thread where your pump drive gear striped..
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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:49 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
just put another au engine in... stil much much cheaper and easier than the dohc


yeah but if i get another au engine who says that the shaft wont fail soon anyways,

does anyone know if these shafts are available after market, bursons, repco or the like

 

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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:50 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:54 pm 
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bradley4567 wrote:
TROYMAN wrote:
just put another au engine in... stil much much cheaper and easier than the dohc


yeah but if i get another au engine who says that the shaft wont fail soon anyways,

does anyone know if these shafts are available after market, bursons, repco or the like


aslong as you fit the gear from the au oil pump drive to the ef cas you should be fine..

and afaik the aux shafts are not available new aftermarket. so its second hand only.. the thing you got to worry about now is all the fine metal has now been curculating through your oil pump and the rest of the engine, so if you fix the shaft, the oil pump and bottom end bearings will be next....
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:55 pm 
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:04 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
bradley4567 wrote:
TROYMAN wrote:
just put another au engine in... stil much much cheaper and easier than the dohc


yeah but if i get another au engine who says that the shaft wont fail soon anyways,

does anyone know if these shafts are available after market, bursons, repco or the like


aslong as you fit the gear from the au oil pump drive to the ef cas you should be fine..

and afaik the aux shafts are not available new aftermarket. so its second hand only.. the thing you got to worry about now is all the fine metal has now been curculating through your oil pump and the rest of the engine, so if you fix the shaft, the oil pump and bottom end bearings will be next....



yeah i suppose, i could flush the engine out a few times put a new filter and clean out then run for a few kms then repeat, while its all apart i could inspect the oil pump and replace if needed.

but i do have this ef block now half built here i suppose i could finish it and put that engine in, sounds more feasible

or
i'll just put another gear on the synchronizer shaft so it will work for 20km and sell it with a driveway warranty,

 

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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:07 pm 
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bradley4567 wrote:
TROYMAN wrote:
bradley4567 wrote:
TROYMAN wrote:
just put another au engine in... stil much much cheaper and easier than the dohc


yeah but if i get another au engine who says that the shaft wont fail soon anyways,

does anyone know if these shafts are available after market, bursons, repco or the like


aslong as you fit the gear from the au oil pump drive to the ef cas you should be fine..

and afaik the aux shafts are not available new aftermarket. so its second hand only.. the thing you got to worry about now is all the fine metal has now been curculating through your oil pump and the rest of the engine, so if you fix the shaft, the oil pump and bottom end bearings will be next....



yeah i suppose, i could flush the engine out a few times put a new filter and clean out then run for a few kms then repeat, while its all apart i could inspect the oil pump and replace if needed.

but i do have this ef block now half built here i suppose i could finish it and put that engine in, sounds more feasible

or
i'll just put another gear on the synchronizer shaft so it will work for 20km and sell it with a driveway warranty,


Do the job properly, it's a Ford not a bloody Merc.

And don't sell it to anyone here, you just told em how shonky you are.
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 Post subject: Re: Au engine oil pump drive
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:13 pm 
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lol lol lol,

my work would make you cry, it must be the king of dodgeys, and i do all my work properly tyvm,

i havent had that many cars come back,

i need to visit my mums more often and build that engine.

in regards to timing chain, can they be purchased new or anything?

also what would be better to run on that block the ef head or an au head?

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:14 pm 
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im not shonky i wouldnt actually do that

 

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