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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:39 am 
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yeah, i think the edit has enough ability to avoid the security crap.
BA ECU + EDIT would most likely be enough, although i havnt heard any confirmed reports.

using a BA ECU would make the whole conversion a lot more legal too.


Yeah something that I would prefer as well :S...

by the way...i just thought about another problem...insurance...thats gonna cost me an arm and a leg.


nah, engine swaps don't add that much to your premium.
f**k insurance anyway, 3rd party to cover other people is good enuogh!.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:45 am 
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If you are going with a BA engine. Why not go for the BA turbo. More work but more pleasure at the end.

Would it fit?

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:40 am 
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LOL gryph...we'll see how it goes.

Dan...I guess 3rd party, fire and theft is good =D

I reckon turbo is cheating...like rushed said :P BA engine is cheaper as well and I'm not after boost.


Okay I spoke to my mechanic and he never knew that it was possible. He is going to speak to his partner about it and has asked me to find out what other people have done to the K-Frame to get the BA engine to fit into the EL. He said that the Sump can't be modified so he was hoping to get the K-Frame re-engineered.

Just wondering if anyone knows who JETXR is so I can speak to him or if you know anyone else that is doing this conversion. At the moment I know Darren from FTG is doing it so I'll give him a message as well.

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:45 am 
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phongus wrote:
He said that the Sump can't be modified so he was hoping to get the K-Frame re-engineered.


the sump CAN be modified. just like this one...

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:54 am 
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to use the BA ECU, dont u need to use the ICC as well in conjunction?

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:56 am 
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stockstandard wrote:
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He said that the Sump can't be modified so he was hoping to get the K-Frame re-engineered.


the sump CAN be modified. just like this one...

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cheers stockstandard...do you reckon you have a bigger image then that?

by the way...after this conversion would the car still be street legal? I have read that JETXR is not street legal so I'm a bit iffy if its not going to be street legal :?

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:57 am 
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to use the BA ECU, dont u need to use the ICC as well in conjunction?


not if you've got an edit apparently.

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:01 pm 
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phongus wrote:
cheers stockstandard...do you reckon you have a bigger image then that?

by the way...after this conversion would the car still be street legal? I have read that JETXR is not street legal so I'm a bit iffy if its not going to be street legal :?

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No thats just what I pulled off ebay (got a few other angles, will post them up)

Legality depends on local laws. In SA for example, no problems as long as all the emissions gear from the BA engine is kept.

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and another modified sump

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:10 pm 
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Cheers stockstandard. I'll pas this on to see if its possible for them to do it.

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:44 pm 
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get a 3v in there phong! you wont regret it :D

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:49 pm 
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Another thing...with the transmission to engine...would i need an AU/BA bellhousing or could i use my EL one?

mark...one thing at a time :P

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:52 pm 
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auto is no probs

getting the engine to fit is not big deal

Dont worry about how to get the engine in the car, work out how to get it running. As soon as someone works out an easy engine management solution for the DOHC everyone will be putting them pre-ba's

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:16 pm 
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stockstandard wrote:
auto is no probs

getting the engine to fit is not big deal

Dont worry about how to get the engine in the car, work out how to get it running. As soon as someone works out an easy engine management solution for the DOHC everyone will be putting them pre-ba's


I was going to use an aftermarket ECU like WOLF 3D...or isn't that enough? If thats not enough I think i better start working backwards from the BA ECU

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:35 pm 
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phongus wrote:
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auto is no probs

getting the engine to fit is not big deal

Dont worry about how to get the engine in the car, work out how to get it running. As soon as someone works out an easy engine management solution for the DOHC everyone will be putting them pre-ba's


I was going to use an aftermarket ECU like WOLF 3D...or isn't that enough? If thats not enough I think i better start working backwards from the BA ECU

phong =P~


Well it will run the engine but I doubt it has the capabilities to run the VCT or COP (have to check the specs to be sure). Also running aftermarket ecu's can cause trouble with rego (require emissions testing).

Would be interesting to see exactly what needs to be done to get a BA ecu in there as I dont think anyone knows for sure.

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:50 pm 
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stockstandard wrote:
phongus wrote:
stockstandard wrote:
auto is no probs

getting the engine to fit is not big deal

Dont worry about how to get the engine in the car, work out how to get it running. As soon as someone works out an easy engine management solution for the DOHC everyone will be putting them pre-ba's


I was going to use an aftermarket ECU like WOLF 3D...or isn't that enough? If thats not enough I think i better start working backwards from the BA ECU

phong =P~


Well it will run the engine but I doubt it has the capabilities to run the VCT or COP (have to check the specs to be sure). Also running aftermarket ecu's can cause trouble with rego (require emissions testing).

Would be interesting to see exactly what needs to be done to get a BA ecu in there as I dont think anyone knows for sure.


Would require a fair bit bridging and isolating parts of the ECU so that it don't stuff up the rest of the car. I haven't even seen the ECU of an EL so I won't know what does what until i see a diagram of it.

on second thoughts I'm going to open my spare ECU lol

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