Fordmods Logo

BA falcon Gutless in the bottom end 

 

Page 3 of 4 [ 54 posts ] Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

 
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:17 am 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 2516

Joined: 7th Nov 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: LS3 VF

Location: Bunbury
WA, Australia

Shadow_RPD wrote:
Take back to Ford & get the BF ECU tune. Might help


firstly, you cant, BF has a different ecu with different wires going into it (even has 3 plugs vs 2 on a BA I6...

also, traction control was an option on BA XT's. Its standard on all BF Petrol Sedans...
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:57 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 4401

Joined: 25th Mar 2005

Ride: BA XT, BA XR6T, ED Ghia 5.0

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

lagmaster wrote:
Our ED does 0-60 is 3 seconds. All it has that I can tell is a 2.5" zorst.

And from what I can tell from our experiences with the BAII we used (hire car hehe), they are s**t down low. We found a nice hill with a corner in Bellingen, stopped, and then floored it round, not even a peep from the tires. Not sure if that is an indicator, but I reckon if we did that in the ED there'd be a bit of action.


Maybe because the BA doesn't run smaller narrower crappy tyres and an ancient rear suspension setup :)

 

_________________

What's the difference between a Holden and a sheep? It's less embarrasing getting out of the back of a sheep..

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:36 am 
Oompa Loompa
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 23

Joined: 17th Oct 2006

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

xpression wrote:
Shadow_RPD wrote:
Take back to Ford & get the BF ECU tune. Might help


firstly, you cant, BF has a different ecu with different wires going into it (even has 3 plugs vs 2 on a BA I6...

also, traction control was an option on BA XT's. Its standard on all BF Petrol Sedans...


For starters i aint talking about an entire ECU. My local ford dealer took one of my work mates car into to get the BF flash tune done and since noticed better fuel econemy and better throttle response. Try ringing your local ford dealer.....
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: BA falcon Gutless in the bottom end
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:49 am 
Oompa Loompa
Offline
User avatar

Age: 52

Posts: 33

Joined: 2nd Jan 2006

Gallery: 11 images

Location: Greymouth
New Zealand

howsie wrote:
hey i got a 2002 BA XT falcon and was recently shocked when a stock standard ED falcon managed to pull away from me at the lights. Of cause i got him but there was very little power in the car till at least 3000rpm. At the moment the only mods are a 2 1/2inch sports exhaust from the cat back (which helped a little).

Any one got any ideas


Whats your reaction time like mate???. lol :D

 

_________________

2007 FPV GT Cobra 302, 6 speed manual, 6 pot Brembo's.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:05 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 117

Joined: 20th Jul 2006

Gallery: 5 images

Ride: BA Falcon XT

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

It is the torque control combined with longggg gearing... Do afew more mods and you will be happy.

 

_________________

BA Falcon XT 6cyl: extractors, exhaust, cat, SS Inductions throttle body & CAI, K & N air filter, 20% underdrives, thermostat, CAPA Flash Tuner/Custom tuned, trans cooler
Hopefully soon: 4.11 LSD, Crow cams, BF XR6T valve springs

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:07 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 4401

Joined: 25th Mar 2005

Ride: BA XT, BA XR6T, ED Ghia 5.0

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Shadow_RPD wrote:
xpression wrote:
Shadow_RPD wrote:
Take back to Ford & get the BF ECU tune. Might help


firstly, you cant, BF has a different ecu with different wires going into it (even has 3 plugs vs 2 on a BA I6...

also, traction control was an option on BA XT's. Its standard on all BF Petrol Sedans...


For starters i aint talking about an entire ECU. My local ford dealer took one of my work mates car into to get the BF flash tune done and since noticed better fuel econemy and better throttle response. Try ringing your local ford dealer.....


He's a mechanic at the local Ford dealer :P

 

_________________

What's the difference between a Holden and a sheep? It's less embarrasing getting out of the back of a sheep..

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:18 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 721

Joined: 12th Dec 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: Na fairlane, xe 351 ute

Location: penrith, sydney
NSW, Australia

reaction times not too bad i was about a second behind cause he wen't a second earlier than he was supposed to. however i must say in the ba's defence the ED i was draging had extractors and a full 2.5 inch exhaust where as my ba's only got from the cat back 2.5inch

 

_________________

Current cars
1983 XE Ute - xf front, worked 351, straight gas
1990 Na fairlane - stock

ex cars
Fg xr6t, 80 series cruiser, ba xt, ea s-pac (xr6 test model), ke laser.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:16 pm 
Fordmods Newbie
Offline

Posts: 6

Joined: 22nd Jun 2006

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

THere are heaps of reasons..

Car is too heavy
Car has a crap diff ratio
Car is tuned for high revs.

Aside from that, I hear a rumor that there is built in torque restriction that can be alleviated with an edit, or by resetting the ECU.

Worth a shot, the story is to disconnect your battery for 12 hours or more.

I have tried it, but I have a flash tune which I believe gets rid of it anyway.

Usually the BAs are worst after you have been giving it some curry for a while.

ANyway, try the reset and see.

BTW, my car now has 220rwhp and it STILL feels crap off the mark :-(

The EF was always nicer across the lights.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:46 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 117

Joined: 20th Jul 2006

Gallery: 5 images

Ride: BA Falcon XT

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

Mine does about 6 seconds to 100, without cams and shorter gearing. It doesnt cost that much to get performance out of these cars.

 

_________________

BA Falcon XT 6cyl: extractors, exhaust, cat, SS Inductions throttle body & CAI, K & N air filter, 20% underdrives, thermostat, CAPA Flash Tuner/Custom tuned, trans cooler
Hopefully soon: 4.11 LSD, Crow cams, BF XR6T valve springs

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:04 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 42

Posts: 1001

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 19 images

Ride: EL Fairmont Ghia

Power: 132 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

pox about the diff ratios. theyre the 308 same as the ef.
what fuel you run in these cars does make a fair difference to how they run however.

 

_________________

175.7hp 15.5 @ 374,000km
Team I have two E-Series AND all my teeth.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:36 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 4849

Joined: 19th Feb 2005

Gallery: 1 images

Ride: BA Falcon Suzy Across

Power: 178 rwkw

Location: melbourne
VIC, Australia

samftr wrote:
pox about the diff ratios. theyre the 308 same as the ef.
what fuel you run in these cars does make a fair difference to how they run however.


that is so true, i actually noticed a substantial difference between unleaded and v power racing.

 

_________________

178.3 rwkw
15.1@96 mph
Now with 3.9 shrooms

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:34 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 42

Posts: 1001

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 19 images

Ride: EL Fairmont Ghia

Power: 132 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

run it on woolies unleaded for a few weeks and you will get beaten by 330000 kay old auto efs on gas aka mine (not auto anymore tho) but thats the difference it makes

 

_________________

175.7hp 15.5 @ 374,000km
Team I have two E-Series AND all my teeth.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:21 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 3025

Joined: 28th Oct 2005

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: BA MKII XR8

Location: Caroline Springs
VIC, Australia

Andre wrote:
Mine does about 6 seconds to 100, without cams and shorter gearing. It doesnt cost that much to get performance out of these cars.


6 seconds!!! That's very impressive!!!

What has the XT got done to it to pull those sorts of times?

Also, how did measure 6 seconds? G-tech?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:20 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 3687

Joined: 4th Mar 2005

Gallery: 23 images

Ride: XR6 Turbo

Location: Taree
NSW, Australia

downingj wrote:
Andre wrote:
Mine does about 6 seconds to 100, without cams and shorter gearing. It doesnt cost that much to get performance out of these cars.


6 seconds!!! That's very impressive!!!

What has the XT got done to it to pull those sorts of times?

Also, how did measure 6 seconds? G-tech?
6 seconds mmmmmmm

 

_________________

SS Inductions CAI, K&N Filters, M-spec FMC, Turbosmart BOV, 8psi capa tune, X-force cat.

Mods going on: Nizpro springs, bosch 040 pump + Walbro gss341, 600cc injectors, PWR transcooler, 20% Underdrives, 15psi Actuator, Kingspring SSL's, 15psi tune.....More coming

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:30 am 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 117

Joined: 20th Jul 2006

Gallery: 5 images

Ride: BA Falcon XT

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

Heres a video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcZo6wLjofw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6LRym2HWk
That was on a dodgy bumpy road, would be better on the strip. Got cams still to go in, then maybe a 4.11 LSD...

 

_________________

BA Falcon XT 6cyl: extractors, exhaust, cat, SS Inductions throttle body & CAI, K & N air filter, 20% underdrives, thermostat, CAPA Flash Tuner/Custom tuned, trans cooler
Hopefully soon: 4.11 LSD, Crow cams, BF XR6T valve springs

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 3 of 4  [ 54 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot] and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:27 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names