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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:09 pm 
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is the cam timing still good. may have jumped a tooth if chain tensioner failed or weak

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:34 pm 
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i checked the cam timing yesterday and reset the tensioner to be sure lol

feels like ive covered all bases but its just refusing to start...

should i consider swapping the ecu?

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:53 pm 
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did you end up doing the compression test. what are the plugs like now.

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:05 pm 
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the plugs are brand new.
i was waiting for the battery to charge.
ill do the comp test now

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:49 pm 
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anyone know what the compression should be?
compression test results:

cylinder in PSI:
1 270
2 280
3 260
4 270
5 0 (lol)
6 260

have poured some oil down the bore and nothing still.
checked the valves, cant see anything wrong with them, but its not pushing any air out the spark plug hole at all.

i still would have though this wouldnt stop the car from starting at all, so must be some other issues elsewhere as well.

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:03 pm 
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sounds like that would do it. i.d get the cam out of it and have a look at all the valves

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:14 pm 
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the compression test was done cold, with no oil.
i then poured oil in number 5 and yeah didnt improve.

i was going to try trouble shoot it more, but figured even if i get it running, its still got a f**k valve lol

so just pulled the head off, and sure enough number 5 valve is sticking out a bit.
will take some pics in a sec.

i have a map sensor to swap over and will have to find an ECU during the week.
havent really heard of the ECU carking it and i also tested it with a multi meter, but that wont tell me if the ecu isnt doing what its supposed to.

this gives me a good excuse to put the EF XR6 head on haha.

the only thing i habvent replaced is the ECU and the relays.
but the relays are all working cause i tested them, and if they werent working it wouldnt get spark or fuel.

so ill change the head and the ECU next weekend and hope to god it starts!

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:28 pm 
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pics n s**t

headless:

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no. 5 cylinder with oil from comp test - proly a lil too much lol:

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no 5 piston:

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no. 5 chamber and valves:

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current head vs. EF XR6 head Im putting on after its shaved:

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:11 pm 
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Is the cleaner lookin head the XR6 head???...if so, it has a lot of corosion in it, look at the water ports......doesn't look good!!!!..... :(

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:48 pm 
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yeah it is sadly lol.
i checked it against the gasket and it wasnt too bad.
ill get it repaired if possible and its having 50 thou taken off it also, so that will take it back a bit also.

the last head i pulled off this car was much worse and didnt have any problems with that lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:43 pm 
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50thou? what would that bring comp up to?
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 Post subject: Re: car wont start - includes video and ECU codes
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:47 pm 
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i thinkkk around 10:1 cant remember lol

i wanna get the head shop to measure how much has been taken off it first to make sure i dont take too much off. looks like its already been shaved a few times.

but have been toying with whacking a turbo on instead of going for the high comp

 

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in the shed - .595" lift cam, GT4202, forged AU engine, ems 4424 ecu, glide & 5500 stall - next-bellhousing

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