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tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: blackjack_original wrote: What the hell is carbon clean? Is this something you put in the fuel tank, and it clans out yr injectors, and yr engine? Its a machine they attach to your fuel lines, bypassing your fuel tank. They then run the engine for a length of time to clean the injectors. I believe the machine has a fuel/detergent mix in it. it's not to clean the injectors only. the main point is to clean the any build up on the ports, valves,pistons and chambers Ah yes I realise its meant to clean up the rest as well, however in my experience it didn't do such a good job, as I ended up removing the injectors to have the cleaned properly all up it cost $260. Maybe the shop didn't run the carbon clean long enough. However once bitten twice shy as they say. So I will never use it again.
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Well, I'm definitely getting the Carbon Clean to just give my whole system a good clean-up.
The guy did say that if injectors are actually WORN, then ANY sort of cleaning won't do anything for them ...and they should be replaced. What he suggested is that he actually replaces mine with the relatively new ones (40,000K's) that have just been changed OUT of the XR6 (guy's going for BIGGEST injectors possible), just to see if they make a difference, ...then I have the option to buy those injectors or buy a new set. Either way, I think Carbon Clean is definitely worth a shot!
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madmax wrote: tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: blackjack_original wrote: What the hell is carbon clean? Is this something you put in the fuel tank, and it clans out yr injectors, and yr engine? Its a machine they attach to your fuel lines, bypassing your fuel tank. They then run the engine for a length of time to clean the injectors. I believe the machine has a fuel/detergent mix in it. it's not to clean the injectors only. the main point is to clean the any build up on the ports, valves,pistons and chambers Ah yes I realise its meant to clean up the rest as well, however in my experience it didn't do such a good job, as I ended up removing the injectors to have the cleaned properly all up it cost $260. Maybe the shop didn't run the carbon clean long enough. However once bitten twice shy as they say. So I will never use it again. you had to remove the injectors to have them clean because a carbon clean is just that, a carbon clean NOT an injector clean. it's primary job is to remove carbon from the ports valves chambers and pistons. it will also clean mildly dirty injectors. being againts something for not doing what it wasn't designed to do seems a little stupid if you ask me |
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tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: blackjack_original wrote: What the hell is carbon clean? Is this something you put in the fuel tank, and it clans out yr injectors, and yr engine? Its a machine they attach to your fuel lines, bypassing your fuel tank. They then run the engine for a length of time to clean the injectors. I believe the machine has a fuel/detergent mix in it. it's not to clean the injectors only. the main point is to clean the any build up on the ports, valves,pistons and chambers Ah yes I realise its meant to clean up the rest as well, however in my experience it didn't do such a good job, as I ended up removing the injectors to have the cleaned properly all up it cost $260. Maybe the shop didn't run the carbon clean long enough. However once bitten twice shy as they say. So I will never use it again. you had to remove the injectors to have them clean because a carbon clean is just that, a carbon clean NOT an injector clean. it's primary job is to remove carbon from the ports valves chambers and pistons. it will also clean mildly dirty injectors. being againts something for not doing what it wasn't designed to do seems a little stupid if you ask me Problem is, some guys who solely operate these machines (Ultratune, Auto Masters etc.) will mislead you just for a Carbon Clean sale. As the guy told me at Regional Motorsport ...the Carbon Clean is a TOOL, not a complete remedy!
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I have had a Carbon clean done in the past, and I was actually impressed at the difference that it actaully made. I mean it was smother more economical and the engine just ran sweeter.
I would do it again and invest some $$$ for a off car injector clean or even buy some new ones.. |
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estgonXR6 wrote: I have had a Carbon clean done in the past, and I was actually impressed at the difference that it actaully made. I mean it was smother more economical and the engine just ran sweeter.
I would do it again and invest some $$$ for a off car injector clean or even buy some new ones.. Exactly what I'm doing, plus a new thermostat! Hope it does the job.
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tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: blackjack_original wrote: What the hell is carbon clean? Is this something you put in the fuel tank, and it clans out yr injectors, and yr engine? Its a machine they attach to your fuel lines, bypassing your fuel tank. They then run the engine for a length of time to clean the injectors. I believe the machine has a fuel/detergent mix in it. it's not to clean the injectors only. the main point is to clean the any build up on the ports, valves,pistons and chambers Ah yes I realise its meant to clean up the rest as well, however in my experience it didn't do such a good job, as I ended up removing the injectors to have the cleaned properly all up it cost $260. Maybe the shop didn't run the carbon clean long enough. However once bitten twice shy as they say. So I will never use it again. you had to remove the injectors to have them clean because a carbon clean is just that, a carbon clean NOT an injector clean. it's primary job is to remove carbon from the ports valves chambers and pistons. it will also clean mildly dirty injectors. being againts something for not doing what it wasn't designed to do seems a little stupid if you ask me Quote: Problem is, some guys who solely operate these machines (Ultratune, Auto Masters etc.) will mislead you just for a Carbon Clean sale.
Thats exactly the point. I was told it was to clean the injectors plus the valves & ports etc. So when something doesn't do what I was told it would do, what would you expect me to do, recommend it?
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madmax wrote: tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: tickford_6 wrote: madmax wrote: blackjack_original wrote: What the hell is carbon clean? Is this something you put in the fuel tank, and it clans out yr injectors, and yr engine? Its a machine they attach to your fuel lines, bypassing your fuel tank. They then run the engine for a length of time to clean the injectors. I believe the machine has a fuel/detergent mix in it. it's not to clean the injectors only. the main point is to clean the any build up on the ports, valves,pistons and chambers Ah yes I realise its meant to clean up the rest as well, however in my experience it didn't do such a good job, as I ended up removing the injectors to have the cleaned properly all up it cost $260. Maybe the shop didn't run the carbon clean long enough. However once bitten twice shy as they say. So I will never use it again. you had to remove the injectors to have them clean because a carbon clean is just that, a carbon clean NOT an injector clean. it's primary job is to remove carbon from the ports valves chambers and pistons. it will also clean mildly dirty injectors. being againts something for not doing what it wasn't designed to do seems a little stupid if you ask me Quote: Problem is, some guys who solely operate these machines (Ultratune, Auto Masters etc.) will mislead you just for a Carbon Clean sale. Thats exactly the point. I was told it was to clean the injectors plus the valves & ports etc. So when something doesn't do what I was told it would do, what would you expect me to do, recommend it? i'd at least expect you to get the right info on it befor posting a negative. I've seen first hand that do what there are designed to do and they do it very well. I've done one on a car and 3 weeks later takent he head of it, seen it first hand. very much worth the $140 to $160 that they cost |
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Anyway guys, no point in getting into a dispute over this ...we're all Ford owners here!
Everyone's entitled to an opinion...
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Is there a fuel additive that'll do almost the same thing?
Think of the moneyyyy, lol.
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Till_Lind wrote: Is there a fuel additive that'll do almost the same thing?
Think of the moneyyyy, lol. no. you get what you pay for. |
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Till_Lind wrote: Is there a fuel additive that'll do almost the same thing?
Think of the moneyyyy, lol. Yes there are fuel additives that 'supposedly' clean the injectors and fuel system, but they are not guaranteed to work ...and will certainly NOT work on worn injectors! The carbon clean method is PROVEN to remove carbon deposits from valves, pistons, ports etc, ...and I think $160.00 is money well spent to regain economy, power, and efficiency of the engine!
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markr154 wrote: Till_Lind wrote: Is there a fuel additive that'll do almost the same thing? Think of the moneyyyy, lol. Yes there are fuel additives that 'supposedly' clean the injectors and fuel system, but they are not guaranteed to work ...and will certainly NOT work on worn injectors! The carbon clean method is PROVEN to remove carbon deposits from valves, pistons, ports etc, ...and I think $160.00 is money well spent to regain economy, power, and efficiency of the engine! Okayyyyyy, lol.
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blackjack_original wrote: so basically, the way i see it, carefully inject some water with a syringe or something down your intake, and you'll have saved your self ~$150. If you'r injectors are dirty so much that they don't spray properly, in my experience cleaning them with solutions will definitley not be worth the time. So take the $150 dollars you've saved on a carbon clean and have your injectors cleaned professionaly.
Yeah, if clean injectors are all you're wanting to achieve! The Carbon Clean thoroughly cleans everything else though, less likelihood of the injectors refouling if the rest of the fuel system, valves, ports, pistons etc are clean!
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