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 Post subject: Coughing engine , ef - FIXED INTAKE MANIFOLD LEAK
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:26 pm 
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!!!( FIXED Was a intake manifold gasket leak, Runs perfect now Thanks guys)!!!!

hi well most of you know i have been rebuilding an ef engine since last december, its in the car and i have driven it,

im having a few coughing and spluttering problems for instance when i go to give it a rev it coughs for a second before reving up,,also for example i was crusing along at 80 and i would let the gas off to let it plain back down when its around 1200 it coughs when i go to go it back up into the revs , few people say it could be the timeing but the ef has a synconiser?????

any ideas would be great

fuel???? maby???

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:24 pm 
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hi well most of you know i have been rebuilding an ef engine since last december, its in the car and i have driven it,

im having a few coughing and spluttering problems for instance when i go to give it a rev it coughs for a second before reving up,,also for example i was crusing along at 80 and i would let the gas off to let it plain back down when its around 1200 it coughs when i go to go it back up into the revs , few people say it could be the timeing but the ef has a synconiser?????

any ideas would be great

fuel???? maby???


Fuel?..Miss firing?...Spark?...Dunno i would check the simple little things first.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:56 am 
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+1 to fuel, could be fuel lines a bit clogged (especially if dual fuel) or fuel pump might be on the way out. does it run rough on idle also? if so check leads n plugs. doesnt sound like anything too major mate
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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:01 pm 
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it idles its just when i go to rev around 500rpm to 1700rpm that it chokes and f@rt and sometimes backfires through the pod,,

so today after checking quite a few things including hooking a ossilloscope up to the diagnostic port, ( nothing there)

one thing that was weird is when i disconnect the map sensor from the manifold it will rev properley from low ranges instead of just couging and s**t itself, but blows a heap of s**t out the exawst

when its running normally no exawst emissions


any ideas? im baffled, btw it doesnot have a stock intake, 30cm of pip[e then pod st8 off the bbm, could this be the cause?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:12 pm 
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My car is having the same thing happening at the moment too. Sputters momentarily, then takes off. Although i believe mine is also leaning out in the upper rpm. What work has the car had done to it?
Im putting mine down to requiring a tune on the j3.

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:56 pm 
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ok ill start off what my engine has, ill start from the bottom , makes it easyer

High-volume Jp performance oil pump
balanced crank assemblly
bigend and main bearings, - Acl competition racing type with 1" extra oil clearance
20" oversize pistons ed pistons with the bigger dish for compression issues when it goes turbo
Moly Rings - acl ---18 or 19thou bottom, 21thou top
Shaved head
MLS au headgasket
Ed Port and polihsed head with crow xr6 equiv springs
Oversize injectors

Recondisioned gearbox- work done by me

so yeah lol what about your engine???

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:01 pm 
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If its not turbo and you have bigger injectors take them off an put the stock ones back

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:09 pm 
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Hey it could be your injectors or fuel pump I have a set of good injectors (factory EF ones tht had a reco 20,000k ago) and a good s/hand fuel pump you can have for $ and price of postage if you want.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:14 pm 
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how much would you be after for the injectors

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:37 pm 
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$50 posted you can have the 6 injectors, fuel pump and a spare fuel reg for your EF.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:44 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:59 pm 
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It could possibly have something to do with your air intake. I remember i once forgot to reattach my air system and when i started the car it was a lumpy piece of s**t. Maybe ur pod isnt on 100%? or its not clean & dusty ?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:07 pm 
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Try seeing if its a bung coil pack. Had a similar issue on my EF. Would take off from lights or roundabout and would f@rt and cough and jump till i got till about 2500 onwards, then she was sweet. Changed the coil pack over and hey presto, brand new car!!!!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Coughing engine , ef
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:14 pm 
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ok ill grab one of my spares and go chuck it on,,,, but first coffie

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:21 pm 
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I would suggest taking one lead off, putting it on new coil, next lead off, on new coil etc. As it is in a b**ch of a position and you cant see unless youve got b**ch arms or have someone looking from above.

 

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