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 Post subject: EB Fairmont No Spark
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:52 am 
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My brother claims to have driven thru a puddle and then car died.
He got towed home and I looked at it on monday.
He had no Spark.
So my brothers then replaced dizzy,coil, dizzy cap, leads. still no spark its got me stuffed why there is no spake could the ECU be dead?
Dodge relay?
Anybody got any Ideas?

 

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 Post subject: Re: EB Fairmont No Spark
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:19 am 
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Moran wrote:
My brother claims to have driven thru a puddle and then car died.
He got towed home and I looked at it on monday.
He had no Spark.
So my brothers then replaced dizzy,coil, dizzy cap, leads. still no spark its got me stuffed why there is no spake could the ECU be dead?
Dodge relay?
Anybody got any Ideas?

Um try the interior light fuse, it ties in with the smart lock
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:08 am 
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its not uncommon for this to happen but usually its the ignition coil that get water in it and f**k it all up, but if you replaced that with a new one then i dont know off hand what it could be

 

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 Post subject: Re: EB Fairmont No Spark
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:13 am 
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ebman40 wrote:
Moran wrote:
My brother claims to have driven thru a puddle and then car died.
He got towed home and I looked at it on monday.
He had no Spark.
So my brothers then replaced dizzy,coil, dizzy cap, leads. still no spark its got me stuffed why there is no spake could the ECU be dead?
Dodge relay?
Anybody got any Ideas?

Um try the interior light fuse, it ties in with the smart lock


No its series 1 pre smart lock I it was Series 2 I would have checked that.
thanks for the suggestion :)
I should have mentioned series.

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:21 am 
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Leroy wrote:
its not uncommon for this to happen but usually its the ignition coil that get water in it and f**k it all up, but if you replaced that with a new one then i dont know off hand what it could be


Its got me stuffed.
Someone over at fordforums.com.au said he had the EEC 4 module go and I wasnt providing SPOUT (Spark Output) Lucky we have a spare ECU from a 4 Speed Auto EA we are going to give it a go today.

I will keep you poset as to the progress.

P.S. I forgot to mention they tried to jumpstart it at place it died they may have spiked ECU

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:52 am 
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I agree with Leroy, chances are it will be the coil.

Problem is the coil casing often cracks where they are mounted, then lets water in.

Check and see if you have a decent spark at the coil lead.

 

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madmax wrote:
I agree with Leroy, chances are it will be the coil.

Problem is the coil casing often cracks where they are mounted, then lets water in.

Check and see if you have a decent spark at the coil lead.


We replaced the coil and we changed ECU still no spark we are now thinking its something internal maybe a stuffed auxillary shaft (drives dizzyt and oil pump off timming chain)

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:31 am 
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Sorry I missed that.

To check the auxillary shaft remove dissy cap and crank engine over. Distributor shaft should turn.

It seems a little odd that this would occur after going through a puddle.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:30 pm 
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madmax wrote:
Sorry I missed that.

To check the auxillary shaft remove dissy cap and crank engine over. Distributor shaft should turn.

It seems a little odd that this would occur after going through a puddle.


I doubt he did I reacon it was just a story to cover up the fact he was thrashing car.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:03 am 
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Hi mate.

Remove the dizzy cap and crank the engine , If it doesnt turn then the dizzy teeth are damaged.

With the ignition on you should have 12 volts on positive side of the coil and 12volts on pin 3 and 4 of the tfi module.

If this checks okay , then suspect the hall effect device in the distributor or even the tfi module itself.

The distributor will work even if the ecu is removed from the vehicle , as long as 12 volts is supplied to pin 3 and 4 on the tfi.
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:14 am 
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I'd put my money on the TFI module if it's not the coil. If you can get your hands on a spare or out of another car, I'd give that a crack first.

Good luck and let us know how your diagnosis goes !

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