Fordmods Logo

EL Falcon Intermittant Surge 

 

Page 1 of 2 [ 17 posts ] Go to page 1, 2  Next

 
 Post subject: EL Falcon Intermittant Surge
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:00 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5924

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Ford FPV FG F6 310

Power: 149 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

Just picked up yet another ride - EL Gli Wagon.
Almost at any given time it will misfire/surge, like its losing spark.
It does not have a blown head gasket.
I had an old ecu laying around here at home, i threw that in and it's still the same.
Leads test fine, plugs are fairly new too.
I bumped the timing up a bit and it seems to have found more power but that miss is still there.
Hot or cold temp, it does not matter, but when its cold you can have your foot flat to the floor and it will literally idle down the street until it picks up 3000rpm or so.
Auto is also not in limp home mode, i have all 4 gears.

Mmy guess is it's either dizzy or coil
Your thoughts?
cheers.

 

_________________

NEW RIDE - FPV FG F6 6spd Auto. 12.26@114MPH, 1.88 60FT on Cheapy Tyres with 38PSI - Stock except K&N filter!

R.I.P. BF XR6 Turbo - You will not be forgotten :( 12.06@120MPH

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:54 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 3737

Joined: 22nd May 2006

Ride: BF F6 Tornado - #0077

Location: Bendigo
VIC, Australia

a cruide trick i was told was to poor water down over the manifold (therefore the coil)

the most common prob is hairline cracks in the coil where it mounts and when water gets in it shorts out.

so if the car stops, theres your answer. but as i said, cruide

 

_________________

** For Sale ** http://www.fordmods.com/ford-parts-for-sale-f17/assorted-e-series-parts-t124697.html

F6 Tornado 2006 Build

Is it about sex? The engine in my car? Or a cure for cancer?
No?

Then f**k off

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:03 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 71

Posts: 3555

Joined: 7th Nov 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Power: 482 rwkw

Location: Penrith
NSW, Australia

Coil, TFI , loom or battery connections...
Fuel supply? Filter, pump ??
Check under bonnet at night with engine runing...
Any ignition leaks should show up....

 

_________________

As in ZOOM 126 edition
331 Dart block,3.25/ 4340 steel crank, Oliver rods,TFS ported track heat heads, TFS track heat inlet Twin SC61 turbo's
Project 1UZ-EF has started.. S475 Turbo 4.0 V8 Mustang Celica.....

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:13 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5924

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Ford FPV FG F6 310

Power: 149 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

battery connections are exellent.
i personally dont think its fuel as it's backfired on me a few times. i could be wrong though, but i will check pressure/s if all else fails.
the injectors were cleaned by the previous owner too.
i'll try looking for an ignition leak, thanks for the tips guys.

 

_________________

NEW RIDE - FPV FG F6 6spd Auto. 12.26@114MPH, 1.88 60FT on Cheapy Tyres with 38PSI - Stock except K&N filter!

R.I.P. BF XR6 Turbo - You will not be forgotten :( 12.06@120MPH

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:49 am 
Fordmods Junkie
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 11752

Joined: 17th May 2005

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL Fairmont, VFR400 racer

Power: 144 rwkw

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

As someone has mentioned, maybe fuel filter. Checked the TFI module as well?

Are you getting a good enough spark? maybe one of the leads might be wearing out but just doesn't show until under load.

Timing might be out too and if you have already fixed your timing, could the balancer have moved?

phong =P~

 

_________________

phongus = Post whore 2006
EL XR6 motor, EL ECU + J3 chip, WADE 1673 Camshaft, 3" S/S intake, Pacy 4480, 2.5" Hi flow cat, 2.5" Lukey exhaust.
Max Power = 144.6 rwkw (03/05/2008)

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:05 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5924

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Ford FPV FG F6 310

Power: 149 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

ok its definitely not timing, coil, rotor, rotor button or plugs.
got the diagnostics onto it, map sensor, isc, tps, p/steer switch, all are good and working.

leads are fine, so the only thing left ignition wise is the distributor.

anyone got one laying around?!

 

_________________

NEW RIDE - FPV FG F6 6spd Auto. 12.26@114MPH, 1.88 60FT on Cheapy Tyres with 38PSI - Stock except K&N filter!

R.I.P. BF XR6 Turbo - You will not be forgotten :( 12.06@120MPH

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:22 am 
Fordmods Junkie
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 11752

Joined: 17th May 2005

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL Fairmont, VFR400 racer

Power: 144 rwkw

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

smoke_ wrote:
ok its definitely not timing, coil, rotor, rotor button or plugs.
got the diagnostics onto it, map sensor, isc, tps, p/steer switch, all are good and working.

leads are fine, so the only thing left ignition wise is the distributor.

anyone got one laying around?!


I've got one...but not sure if it is in any better condition then yours and I'm in Melbourne.

phong =P~

 

_________________

phongus = Post whore 2006
EL XR6 motor, EL ECU + J3 chip, WADE 1673 Camshaft, 3" S/S intake, Pacy 4480, 2.5" Hi flow cat, 2.5" Lukey exhaust.
Max Power = 144.6 rwkw (03/05/2008)

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:24 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 37

Posts: 1087

Joined: 1st Sep 2007

Ride: '07 LT XR5

Power: 133 rwkw

Location: sydney
NSW, Australia

shagged cat?
shagged injectors?

 

_________________

So much RAM the motherboard twisted off the POST.

I lost 3 cylinders... but gained a turbo...
Proud owner of an '07 XR5Turbo

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:41 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 36

Posts: 4183

Joined: 30th May 2005

Ride: 1993 EB XR8

Location: BrisVegas
QLD, Australia

sounds like the cat to me Pauk, just pull it off, and test it by putting some Rebar through it

 

_________________

ILL60 - EF XR8, Sunroof, Ticky Kit, 19x8.5/19x11 TE37's, 347, AFr185's, TFS BoxRcustom converter, Hurst Quarterstick, huge billet cam.

OO0Y4 - BA2 XR6 Turbo, Nizpro Plenum, Process West stage 3 cooler, 4” dump, 3.5” exhaust, ID1000’s, ZF Auto - 11.8@116

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:41 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 36

Posts: 4183

Joined: 30th May 2005

Ride: 1993 EB XR8

Location: BrisVegas
QLD, Australia

sounds like the cat to me Paul, just pull it off, and test it by putting some Rebar through it

 

_________________

ILL60 - EF XR8, Sunroof, Ticky Kit, 19x8.5/19x11 TE37's, 347, AFr185's, TFS BoxRcustom converter, Hurst Quarterstick, huge billet cam.

OO0Y4 - BA2 XR6 Turbo, Nizpro Plenum, Process West stage 3 cooler, 4” dump, 3.5” exhaust, ID1000’s, ZF Auto - 11.8@116

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:53 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5924

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Ford FPV FG F6 310

Power: 149 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

threw another dizzy in, replaced map sensor, tps (all working off a mates car), put a new fuel filter in too.

it kinda plays up alot when you drive it 1/4 throttle as opposed to WOT or half throttle.

it's not a blocked cat as the pressure coming out is normal.

now i'm really leaning towards injectors.

 

_________________

NEW RIDE - FPV FG F6 6spd Auto. 12.26@114MPH, 1.88 60FT on Cheapy Tyres with 38PSI - Stock except K&N filter!

R.I.P. BF XR6 Turbo - You will not be forgotten :( 12.06@120MPH

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:14 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 60

Posts: 5659

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: 96 XH/97 EL

Location: South Coast
NSW, Australia

Why don't you swap the injectors and fuel rail over between your EF & EL, and see if that makes a diff ??

 

_________________

96 XH Longreach 'S': LPG, Alarm, 3.23:1 LSD, Cruise, Trip Comp, ABS, Power Windows, Mid Series Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl
97 EL Futura S/W: LPG, Alarm, LED int Lts, Trip Comp, F/Lane Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl, T5 Conversion

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:23 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5924

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Ford FPV FG F6 310

Power: 149 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

thats not a bad idea, why the hell didnt i think of it lol!

 

_________________

NEW RIDE - FPV FG F6 6spd Auto. 12.26@114MPH, 1.88 60FT on Cheapy Tyres with 38PSI - Stock except K&N filter!

R.I.P. BF XR6 Turbo - You will not be forgotten :( 12.06@120MPH

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:36 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 60

Posts: 5659

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: 96 XH/97 EL

Location: South Coast
NSW, Australia

Well you do have the luxury that a lot of parts will swap over - so you may as well use it.
Next I'd suggest testing fuel pump pressure - hopefully that's not it, as a wagon one is a bit of a PITA to change.

 

_________________

96 XH Longreach 'S': LPG, Alarm, 3.23:1 LSD, Cruise, Trip Comp, ABS, Power Windows, Mid Series Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl
97 EL Futura S/W: LPG, Alarm, LED int Lts, Trip Comp, F/Lane Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl, T5 Conversion

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:49 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5924

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Ford FPV FG F6 310

Power: 149 rwkw

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

pain in the a***? yeh i've noticed......
thanks for the suggestion champ.

 

_________________

NEW RIDE - FPV FG F6 6spd Auto. 12.26@114MPH, 1.88 60FT on Cheapy Tyres with 38PSI - Stock except K&N filter!

R.I.P. BF XR6 Turbo - You will not be forgotten :( 12.06@120MPH

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 2  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 68 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Nov 29, 2024 3:46 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names