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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:17 pm 
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Hello everyone. Just want to find out why my car seems to be good to drive one day and not so good on other times. Today for instance...after warming up the car to operating temp...the car drove quite sluggish whilst driving to work. During my 1 hour lunch break I drove home to eat lunch and get some other stuff and the car was driving like a beaut...kicks in at the right time. In the morning the car felt like it was losing power below 2500RPM but in the afternoon the car was driving fine with no loss of power through out rev range.

Wondering what random thing could cause that.

phong =P~

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:35 pm 
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my ed used to do this type of thing as well, one day went great other days went s**t.

i converted to manual :D

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:46 pm 
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John_xr6 wrote:
my ed used to do this type of thing as well, one day went great other days went s**t.

i converted to manual :D


Oh yeah...hmmm you guys did tell my auto might be slipping and needs a oil top up. might give that a shot though i have no pump...I shall seek one.

phong =P~

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:53 pm 
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Yeah phong give it a shot its easy as, started my apprentiship 2day, first thing I did was change a head gasket on a EL, I always thought that it was a really hard complicated job, turns out its easy as!

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:56 pm 
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:59 pm 
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Disco Frank wrote:
typical boxcars!


Frank...I do not own a boxcar no more :P tis a melted box car thank you very much.

and Molloy...I think it is easy...I just don't have the tools :shock: I can jack up the car find everything...but the thing that i need the most...the pump..

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:27 pm 
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boxcar/melted boxcars ssdd :)

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:57 pm 
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its just the autos, my mates auto commodores and falcons do exactly the same. cud also be air temp, himidity
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:23 am 
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You don't have a chip in it do you?
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:20 am 
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nah he doesnt mate

 

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:12 am 
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Yeah mine does the same thing. EF Fairmont auto. This morning on my way home from work the car ran nice. Stopped off at the supermarket for 10 minutes, then got in and went home. It didn't feel great at all. Almost enough to make you suspect the auto or something else is about to give, if you know what I mean. Just feels rough mechanically, mechanics not purring in harmony, but more like a band thats slightly out of key or tune.
But get in 12 hours later. Back to great again. Power is right on the money. Pulls beautifully up a hill, purrs all the way to work on cruise control.

My thoughts are maybe something to do with heat soak. Because I can bring those symptoms on by going through a longish line at the drive through at Hungry Jacks. Shes great going into the drive through, but 10 minutes later, shes slack driving out. Loses 40% power right there.

Another thing is at the supermarket. Sits in the carpark for 10 minutes, after 25 minutes of driving, and the engine temperature is just rising up.
Get in start her up, and the temp reading is half way up the dial. And she's back to being slack again.
So heat soak, and that would then mean the auto becomes even less efficient at transferring power to the driveline wouldn't it?
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:38 pm 
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nah no chip as wicksy said...my car is stock as a rock...well almost.

might just top up tranny fluid...stupid EL's and no tranny dip stick.

 

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:58 pm 
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phongus wrote:
tranny dip stick.
Haha, thanks for the imagery!

So, you need a pump to actually top up the fluid... so is the plug on the bottom near the pan or something?
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:05 pm 
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its near the pan I think...i was told there is a nut you just undo...much like the oil sump nut. then you'd have to pump it through until it oozes out and then you know its full...pretty lame way but only way unless u remove the pan

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:26 pm 
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phongus wrote:
its near the pan I think...i was told there is a nut you just undo...much like the oil sump nut. then you'd have to pump it through until it oozes out and then you know its full...pretty lame way but only way unless u remove the pan

phong =P~


how are you gonna top up the fluid with the pan off ? hahhaha..
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