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hey guys
my ford el had some drams the other day it started to go really sluggish and no power and backfireing through the exhaust so i thought it was timing so i put new coil and dizzy in timmed it up it ran alright for about half a day then in the arvo it started backfireing and carying on and then it just lost power and died and hasnt started since its got spark and fuel and cranks fine but dosnt want to fire so i put my code reader on it and it throws code 511 and 512 it throws 511 when i have the chip in then 512 without the chip and they recon it means internal EEC modual fault replace does this mean my ecu has s**t itself? so if any one has any idea/opions on why its done what its done will be very helpfull ford el 1997 manual stage 3 crow cam and chip, ported head bigger/better springs ,bigger stainless valves , cold air intake, extractors ,2.5" exhaust |
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| bam1992 |
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Age: 32 Posts: 113 Joined: 27th Mar 2014 Ride: ford falcon el xr6 Location: nambucca heads |
Fit a new com or cheap second hand one and see if it starts could be lots of things try wreckers doesn't matter if manual or auto or ef to el all should get it started if that's the problem
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| ranga83 |
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Does matter if its ef. Needs to be el.
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Age: 32 Posts: 113 Joined: 27th Mar 2014 Ride: ford falcon el xr6 Location: nambucca heads |
Pretty sure I've run ef even though it's coil pack should still turn over just won't have same power or smoothness I'll try tomorrow for something to do got a fair few of each and have swapped and changed them for various things
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| bam1992 |
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Age: 32 Posts: 113 Joined: 27th Mar 2014 Ride: ford falcon el xr6 Location: nambucca heads |
Nope actually I'm sure my brother is running my ef manual computer in his el got it from my last car unless they converted to dizzy before I got it but I don't think so
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bam1992 wrote: Pretty sure I've run ef even though it's coil pack should still turn over just won't have same power or smoothness I'll try tomorrow for something to do got a fair few of each and have swapped and changed them for various things bam1992 wrote: Nope actually I'm sure my brother is running my ef manual computer in his el got it from my last car unless they converted to dizzy before I got it but I don't think so Get your facts straight before you make statements like that. You can't run an EF ECU in a EL or vis versa as the have different plugs (also different number of pins) and with not fit the other ECU. Same as the BCM, different units/Plugs. |
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jazo15 wrote: hey guys my ford el had some drams the other day it started to go really sluggish and no power and backfireing through the exhaust so i thought it was timing so i put new coil and dizzy in timmed it up it ran alright for about half a day then in the arvo it started backfireing and carying on and then it just lost power and died and hasnt started since its got spark and fuel and cranks fine but dosnt want to fire so i put my code reader on it and it throws code 511 and 512 it throws 511 when i have the chip in then 512 without the chip and they recon it means internal EEC modual fault replace does this mean my ecu has s**t itself? so if any one has any idea/opions on why its done what its done will be very helpfull ford el 1997 manual stage 3 crow cam and chip, ported head bigger/better springs ,bigger stainless valves , cold air intake, extractors ,2.5" exhaust Grab a know good EL ECU and try that. Any EL ECU will get you started and prove whether your ECU is faulty. |
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| ranga83 |
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SWC wrote: bam1992 wrote: Pretty sure I've run ef even though it's coil pack should still turn over just won't have same power or smoothness I'll try tomorrow for something to do got a fair few of each and have swapped and changed them for various things bam1992 wrote: Nope actually I'm sure my brother is running my ef manual computer in his el got it from my last car unless they converted to dizzy before I got it but I don't think so Get your facts straight before you make statements like that. You can't run an EF ECU in a EL or vis versa as the have different plugs (also different number of pins) and with not fit the other ECU. Same as the BCM, different units/Plugs. ^^^ this. 104pin ef vs 60 pin el
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ranga83 wrote: SWC wrote: bam1992 wrote: Pretty sure I've run ef even though it's coil pack should still turn over just won't have same power or smoothness I'll try tomorrow for something to do got a fair few of each and have swapped and changed them for various things bam1992 wrote: Nope actually I'm sure my brother is running my ef manual computer in his el got it from my last car unless they converted to dizzy before I got it but I don't think so Get your facts straight before you make statements like that. You can't run an EF ECU in a EL or vis versa as the have different plugs (also different number of pins) and with not fit the other ECU. Same as the BCM, different units/Plugs. ^^^ this. 104pin ef vs 60 pin el I was aware EF was 104 pin but couldn't remember the exact pins for the EL ECU, for some reason I had 70 in mind. To lazy the check the Manual 
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| ranga83 |
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Even if they did fit. it wouldnt run. As they are different ignition systems
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ranga83 wrote: Even if they did fit. it wouldnt run. As they are different ignition systems Totally correct with that statement, unlike some in this thread. |
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SWC wrote: ranga83 wrote: SWC wrote: ] Get your facts straight before you make statements like that. You can't run an EF ECU in a EL or vis versa as the have different plugs (also different number of pins) and with not fit the other ECU. Same as the BCM, different units/Plugs. ^^^ this. 104pin ef vs 60 pin el I was aware EF was 104 pin but couldn't remember the exact pins for the EL ECU, for some reason I had 70 in mind. To lazy the check the Manual correct re 6 cylinder .... manual shows the EL V8 tho with same amount pins as EF, unsure if plugs same tho |
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| ranga83 |
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Ef/el 5.0 ecu SHOULD be interchangable ( havent had much to do with them) but OP says he has A ported HEAD. So assuming he has a 4.0
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| jazo15 |
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yer its a 6 banger,
so ive changed the ecu with another one i got from the wreckers and its still doing the same thing ive changed the aux shaft that was buggered so i fixed it all up redid the engine timing back to standard and all the rest of it and its still missing and being really sluggish so i dont no if its an timming or fuel problem or both |
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| bam1992 |
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Age: 32 Posts: 113 Joined: 27th Mar 2014 Ride: ford falcon el xr6 Location: nambucca heads |
The plate said ef and mine says el and have run the com in mine aswell unless they changed the whole ecu harness don't have the car nemore to check funny how no one would help this guy out until someone else tried hey I'm no mechanic everything I know I've learned by trial and error no need to be d$&@$ about it same as there is heaps of guys on here with el turbos but no one can seem to tell me what I need to know in topic el turbo be a bit nicer jeez
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