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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:04 pm 
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I was just reading through that thinking you have a tig! make one! haha

don't hide it though, the breather looks good, fab up a nice matching washer fluid tank.. then an overflow tank.. then a p/steering res.... lol

on the stock car front the b series have the guard mounted washer fluid setup so may be more easilly adapted?

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:30 pm 
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Postie has been busy :D

Gaskets and head bolts
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Injectors, box of 8 so got a couple of spares
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Filter socks, until I have time to make an airbox
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Fuel rail, need to drill injector ports, so I can size the mount posts
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-8 fittings
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Rail mounts, x 3
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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:56 pm 
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looking good :D...

You must be on first name basis with the postman by now...

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:10 am 
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steve do you have the correct injector drill, or are you just going to step it with normal bits?
dont drill right through the rail, leave a couple mm inside the rail so the o-ring bottoms out in the rail then set your posts so the injectors have a small bit of freeplay. reg not shown up yet?
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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:31 am 
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steve do you have the correct injector drill, or are you just going to step it with normal bits?
dont drill right through the rail, leave a couple mm inside the rail so the o-ring bottoms out in the rail then set your posts so the injectors have a small bit of freeplay. reg not shown up yet?

Was going to drill it in the mill at work, 9mm through to inner rail, then 14mm down to 8mm depth, then chamfer out edge to protect o-ring, the guys in the workshop here said they can make me up a step drill, but if it's clamped correctly I'm thinking the mill should be fine with a new 14mm bit.

I got the rail posts longer so I could lathe them down once I had drilled the fuel rail, so 1-2mm play? is good.

We are normally one day later with parcel delivery, couriers normally hand ball final leg to Aus Post, as i thnk we are 12kms outside normal delivery, so it should get here today.

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:04 pm 
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reg not shown up yet?

Speak of the devil :twisted:
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Didn't get my wideband controller and sensor :( I guess Qld - SA is a long way..

But I do have a week off work after next week :D

Will finish making all parts tomorrow, and start wiring the EMS, see what the difference in standard form an EMS makes for a week, the poor thing is running real rich on the Ford ECU (Would an XR6 manual ECU have more advanced timing than the standard Gli Auto? or would it adjust to compensate over time?)

I think the standard O2 sensor is dead or dying, as it runs great once the ECU is reset, but sldes back out of tune over a couple of days. Can't wait for wideband O2 and data logging :D

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:55 am 
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Will you have enough clearance between the fitting on the end of the fuel rail and the thermostat housing?
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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:12 am 
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Will you have enough clearance between the fitting on the end of the fuel rail and the thermostat housing?

It should fit, as it is only slightly longer than the standard rail, and I can adjust where the injector holes start, fingers crossed.

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:17 pm 
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Will you have enough clearance between the fitting on the end of the fuel rail and the thermostat housing?

Did some checking today, it would be a very tight squeeze and the injector hole would be too close to the fitting thread, so I will get a new thermostat housing and remount the bolt holes (weld new tabs & mill flat) so it faces forwards, there is enough room between the rocker cover to put a 90degree elbow on the bleed hose. Thanks for the tip, I should have had one on the dummy motor, but don't have a spare.

Got the coil brackets all made and welded in, couldn't get into the machine shop at work all week as students are flat out finishing assignments, so had to do them the old fashioned way, angle grinder, die grinder and dremel.

They look good though :D I'm happy with them
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I'm glad I went this way, it sort of balances out the TB's on the other side
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Standard loom fits but is a bit dodgy looking, so I have about 7 meters of black heat shrink and will make a nicer loom during the week.
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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:27 pm 
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just looking at your coil wiring, could you make an ally channel and either run it along the top of the rocker cover, or along the left hand side, ie 'holding the coils back' between it, and the r/cover, and run all the wiring within that?
then a screw down cover that goes over that channel thus hiding all the wiring. It would be a bit of work, but you have the skills, and tig :)
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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:41 pm 
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I do like where this is going. Keep up the hard work, I'm sure it will be well worth the effort. Look forward to see this beast going.

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:47 pm 
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hmmm i bet you have a miss fire
looks liek 5 and 6 arent on properly haha

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:50 pm 
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Are you an engineer by trade? You've got some incredible attention to detail! :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:55 pm 
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Did some checking today, it would be a very tight squeeze and the injector hole would be too close to the fitting thread, so I will get a new thermostat housing and remount the bolt holes (weld new tabs & mill flat) so it faces forwards, there is enough room between the rocker cover to put a 90degree elbow on the bleed hose. Thanks for the tip, I should have had one on the dummy motor, but don't have a spare.

Yeah i didn't think there'd be enough room for that haha.

I too have a suggestion for the wiring of the coils, you could, if it's around, find some black plastic channeling and run it on top of the coils for th full length of the engine, so you don't see any wiring whatsoever. Otherwise like you suggested, use heat shrink and cut equal lenghts between each plug and where the wire runs into the plug immediately run the next coil wire out of that, similar to that of a retractable car antenna, if you get what i mean :? :shock: HAHA!
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 Post subject: Re: I6 Individual throttle bodies project
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:35 pm 
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very nice with the coils, the engine bay is going to look fantastic.

 

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