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 Post subject: Is 300KW N/A at the fly possible?
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:52 pm 
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Is this possible out of the 4.0 OHC? Can it be done on a standard crank / rods but more compression, better pistons etc?

Individual throttle bodies, big 4 barrel even (aussie speed are doing a manifold for speedway classes)?

Which motor would be the best starting point?
What kind of revs will these things do if built right?

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 Post subject: Re: Is 300KW at the fly possible?
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:55 pm 
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Yes, its possible if Forced
Sure, you can make a NA i6 go like the clappers, but for how long? is it going to be street drivable?


Otherwise choose another motor.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:59 pm 
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im getting aproxx 270kw at the flywheel with boost on a stock head and bottom end..

n/a?? thats alot of work needed to get a n/a engine up to 300kw..
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:02 pm 
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Thanks. I should have put N/A in the title.
Yes its for a circuit car so wont be street driven much & I'm looking at putting it into an XE/F. Im not worried about ECU's etc at this stage but if the motor works out well I will go to throttle bodies and a stand alone system.
As long as it will run on PULP, stay together when taken to 6500rpm, I will be very happy.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:02 pm 
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Blunny wrote:
Thanks. I should have put N/A in the title.
Yes its for a circuit car so wont be street driven much & I'm looking at putting it into an XE/F. Im not worried about ECU's etc at this stage but if the motor works out well I will go to throttle bodies and a stand alone system.
As long as it will run on PULP, stay together when taken to 6500rpm, I will be very happy.



you'll never make that much power on pump fuel, let alone only using 6500 to do it.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:11 pm 
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Your going to need alot of work to get 300kw out of the NA OHC I6, it would cost a lot of money as well. 300kw at the engine is around 220-225rwkw and i think the highest NA I6 is around 200-210rwkw from what I have heard. (the bloke is from queensland)

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:11 pm 
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the only way to get that power from a sohc i6 is with more money than you can poke a stick at or with forced induction.
the highest power I've herd of was 212rwkw running on meth.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:14 pm 
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without spending ridiculous amounts of money your looking at about 150-170rwkw..

you can build the bottom end, that will strengthen it up with a small gain by being able to rev a little higher,


call a few cam companies and ask them what the biggest cam they can possibly make for you, your very limited in finding a cam that can exceed that power in na form

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:16 pm 
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I dont think it would really matter what motor you started with, as practically everything would be custom/forged... crank, rods, pistons, springs, valves, rocker gear, and everything in between.... and on PULP :|

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:18 pm 
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on the other hand i think the Barra DOHC would be able to crack the 300kw at the engine NA, but I don't think there has been as much work put in them as yet.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:19 pm 
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call a few cam companies and ask them what the biggest cam they can possibly make for you, your very limited in finding a cam that can exceed that power in na form

http://www.camtechcams.com.au/ford_6cyl_eael.html
http://www.camtechcams.com.au/ford_6cyl_elau.html

I think these are the biggest listed cams for E/A series motors. Of course you can get a custom grind, but the 843 is massive...

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:33 pm 
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on the other hand i think the Barra DOHC would be able to crack the 300kw at the engine NA, but I don't think there has been as much work put in them as yet.


I think the Barra DOHC has far more potential than the i6, but in saying that 300 is a big number. i think you might get 275 with custom cams, tune, full head rework, pistons, and maybe some serious induction work. but we're talking mega$

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:48 pm 
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I'd love to see a head flow comparison between a stock barra head and an E series head as the results could lead me to having a fire sale.

Atomic do motors that can be revved up to 7800rpm but expect to pay s**t money for them. You've got 2 options.

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Option 2) Gamble. Dogs, horses, trots, football matches, ,pokies, poker tournaments, share trading, cfd's, you name it. Any way to get rich quick apart from selling drugs or knocking off what's not yours.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:57 pm 
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would need cooling like a mofo tho woudlent it?

what u think of its torque and 1/4 if such a thing low 13 mabye???

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:10 am 
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Yeah, it can be achieve with a concealed 400hp direct port N2O kit, and you'll probably have a couple of shots with that amount of dose if you're lucky :lol:

Are you sure you don't mean 300bhp?

 

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