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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:01 am 
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Whats the deal with these ELs? All I know is that 1998 model ELs are hybrids and they have some EL parts and go harder then normal ELs but I have some questions about them.

Are all '98 ELs hybrids?
how can I tell a hybrid motor while im inspecting cars to buy?
how much better performance than a non-hybrid EL?
how much worse performance then '98 AU?

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:03 pm 
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Um

They were all the same as far as I was aware, SOHC inline six with 157kw and 357nm of torque. All the EL's/AU's I've driven have felt pretty well the same as far as grunt goes. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:15 pm 
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s0me 0f the el's g0t bits frm the e series and the au series,hence the hybrid m0t0r.

which parts i'm n0t sure.

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:40 pm 
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fnp wrote:
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They were all the same as far as I was aware, SOHC inline six with 157kw and 357nm of torque. All the EL's/AU's I've driven have felt pretty well the same as far as grunt goes. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?


They arent the same, and one shouldn't post unless one is sure of what one is talking about. And you must have driven some funny ones, as each model engine feels and drives pretty different, specially the EL hybrids, you can easily tell the difference between a normal EL and a hybrid EL engine. And AU's are a different feeling all together.

EL hybrids build date starts at 02/98 until the end of the EL life. To identify, either look at the complance plate build date. The block will be unpainted (ie rust colour by now) not black like previous models. The head will have a casting stamp of 96Dx (where x is A or T), unlike earlier models that have 94Dx or 95Dx.

The crank is a EL/AU mixture. Pistons and rods are EL. But the head and cam are full AU spec.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:44 pm 
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what about differences performance wise?

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:50 pm 
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My car tended to rev alot smoother and easier to the redline...

Off the line I felt they werent as quick as the earlier model heads... But made more power in higher rpm.

To the point where I would loose off the line for a car with 94DT head but catch up and beat it over the 1/4 mile.

Highway fuel economy is awesome. Around town, I think it used a little more.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:52 pm 
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:44 pm 
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Hey guys, does anyone know if the el xr6s were hybrids after 2/98 as well?

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:57 pm 
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Hey guys, does anyone know if the el xr6s were hybrids after 2/98 as well?


Being that ARM79 lists 96DT as a possible part number for the hybrid head, I'd assume so!

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:44 am 
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Kingkezza wrote:
Hey guys, does anyone know if the el xr6s were hybrids after 2/98 as well?


Considering I have one, then yes.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:37 am 
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thought ures was a ghia not and xr6 arm lol
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:48 am 
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Rapier wrote:
thought ures was a ghia not and xr6 arm lol


both would use the same tickford head

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:28 am 
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haggis wrote:
Rapier wrote:
thought ures was a ghia not and xr6 arm lol


both would use the same tickford head


Yes Rapier, same s**t... You'd think you'd know these things by now :evil:

I think you should consult your other head before posting such silly drivel!
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