Fordmods Logo

new cams in, strange idle 

 

Page 1 of 2 [ 28 posts ] Go to page 1, 2  Next

 
 Post subject: new cams in, strange idle
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:14 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2280

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: EF Falcon 95

Location: Rosebud
VIC, Australia

got my wade 1004-14 cam in, its got a rough as guts idle, mechanic reckons its the computer trying to adjust to the lack on intake manifold vacuum, would resetting the computer help this at all? its fine after a couple of minutes, but its rough before that.

He adjusted the idle screw up a bit, and he seems to think that the computer senses this, then tries to slam the revs back down to much and causes it to stall sometimes. Any ideas?

 

_________________

Cougar Zero makes my pants fit nice.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:17 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 43

Posts: 8655

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 37 images

Ride: V8 EF Futura

Location: Adelaide CBD
SA, Australia

Sounds like pretty good advice from the mechanic. Definately reset the ECU but i doubt this will fix the idling porblem.

Some people have had success by having a unichip fitted and tuned, others have not had any success at all.

 

_________________

I promise..... I will never die.

Fordmods Administration Group MINOR PUNKED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:17 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5855

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: '95 EF's

Location: Leederville
WA, Australia

i've got a stage 2 crow in mine - the idle isn't exactly anything fantastic, and never will be - the computer will need to 'learn' the new cam as such - reset the base idle if you can, let it learn, and then you may have to up the idle screw slightly until you reach a happy medium with the idle - thats what i've had to do with mine. now it doesn't stall at the lights anymore! :P

 

_________________

R.I.P. Scotty

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:19 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2280

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: EF Falcon 95

Location: Rosebud
VIC, Australia

its fine once warmed up a little, but when i first start the car it struggles a bit, it really hunts in the idle

 

_________________

Cougar Zero makes my pants fit nice.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:21 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5855

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: '95 EF's

Location: Leederville
WA, Australia

if the base idle has been reset correctly, then have a go at upping the idle screw until it idles ok - but don't expect it to be anything like it was before! :P

 

_________________

R.I.P. Scotty

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:21 pm 
Site Admin
Offline
User avatar

Age: 41

Posts: 8833

Joined: 18th Dec 2002

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: AUII V8 LTD

Power: 270 rwkw

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

dont play with the idle screw unless youre going to reset base idle.

 

_________________

WAG363: AUII LTD Supercharged 363 Dart Stroker [Supercharged 363 LTD Build]
WAGGIN: 2012 Volkswagen Passat Wagon - V6 4Motion.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:38 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 5855

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: '95 EF's

Location: Leederville
WA, Australia

Waggin wrote:
dont play with the idle screw unless youre going to reset base idle.


as in before/after/during? lol me mechanic is scotty (scotts840) so maybe i shouldn't trust dodgy taxi mechanics?! :P hehe nah hes done a good job - we set the base, and as we were playing around, upped it slightly as we were working, to get it right - its running better than it ever has now

 

_________________

R.I.P. Scotty

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:50 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 2975

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: BF Typhoon

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

How long have you given it to learn the new cam?
IT can take upto 1000kms in some cases for it to be noticably smoother, altho most will learn it in about 500-800kms.
Its a trade off with lumpy cams, lumpy idles. :cry:

 

_________________

BF Typhoon, Dejavu - 6sp Auto, Leather, Sunroof, 19"s, Electric Pedals, Tint, FPV Sports Wheel, FPV Mats.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:59 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 4304

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 9 images

Ride: EF Falcon XT-T

Location: Mornington Peninsula
VIC, Australia

usually the 114 is perfectly fine idle wise, so my guess is the ECU trying to relearn.
Give it a while and if it doesn't get better then look for problems.
I have a 1004 110 in mine and idle on petrol is useless... but good ol' LPG loves it :D

 

_________________

FALCN6 - EF GLi Turbo, 20" Rims, Air Bag Suspension, Straight LPG, 225rwkw
DTHWGN - EA GL Wagon, LTD Interior, Satin Black, 5.0, Turbo
RACER - EF Futura , 5.0, 5 Speed
PROJECT - 83 Thunderbird, Lowered, 18" Billet Wheels
DAILY - BA Fairmont Ghia 5.4 3V

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:00 pm 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 39

Posts: 92

Joined: 8th Nov 2004

Ride: ed futura

Location: perth
WA, Australia

set yah base idle up to about 400 when its cold and then it should jump to 600-700 when its warm.

or learn to two foot it.

 

_________________

www.thepurplecircle.com
original member.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:47 am 
Smokin em up
Offline

Age: 43

Posts: 241

Joined: 11th Dec 2004

Ride: Ed falcon

Location: kellyville
NSW, Australia

Don't adjust the base idle you'll give yourself no end of grief (I know trust me been there done that) It will learn how to idle after about 200kms, have you upped the base ignition timming? if so how far? too much can cause it to hunt.

 

_________________

HSV I JUST BEAT ONE !

AFF 05 NSW DYNO DAY STATE CHAMP

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:24 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 41

Posts: 780

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: EF XR6

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

Can I ask wether you got the venier timing gear?

 

_________________

Not lost any demerit points

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:50 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 44

Posts: 651

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 3 images

Ride: falcon V8

Power: 213 rwkw

Location: clayton
VIC, Australia

i'm a little slow why shouldn't u adjust the idle?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:05 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2280

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: EF Falcon 95

Location: Rosebud
VIC, Australia

i havnt drivin it all that much since i got the cam so ill give it a bit of time, but no i havnt played with anything. I have reset the ECU, and the mechanic said he upped the idle a little (once warm it sits at bout 6-700 rpm) but didnt wanna take it up any further. Ill give it a few weeks and see how it goes.

 

_________________

Cougar Zero makes my pants fit nice.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:06 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2280

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: EF Falcon 95

Location: Rosebud
VIC, Australia

oh and also I didnt get the timing gear.

 

_________________

Cougar Zero makes my pants fit nice.

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 2  [ 28 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 62 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names