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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:16 pm 
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one of the work utes BFII got flooded in 1m of water couple of days ago and the engine has seized, would it be possible to bring the engine back to life?

 

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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:19 pm 
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if it took in water while running and it tried to compress it in the cylinder and bent something. no. motors f**k.

had 5 cars this week in at my work that need new engines

 

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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:08 pm 
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need more info is it seized from just sitting there with water in it or ?? if its just had water in it take all the plugs out and put a mixture of kero and diesal down each hole and let sit for a few days then just work the bolt on the harmonic balancer back and forth till it turns easy and try turning over after all that with no plugs in to free up the pistons in the bore replace all oils but i cant see why you cant save the engine if nothing has been bent? and you are gentle.
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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:27 pm 
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well as far as i know its been driven into a deep puddle and died in the middle of it, water in the diff and box too. can get eng n trans for free but not interested in boat anchor, only info i can get at the moment is that its seized and there just gonna replace it

 

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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:38 pm 
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If it's hydraulicked ?? As said above take plugs out.. Crank engine over...
Install plugs and way you go... You won't do any more damage than whats
already been done...
Yes there could be one or two bent rods.. Don't rev the crap out of it till
you know it's going good...
Check air cleaner etc and remove any water...

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:10 am 
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EBXR8380 wrote:
If it's hydraulicked ?? As said above take plugs out.. Crank engine over...
Install plugs and way you go... You won't do any more damage than whats
already been done...
Yes there could be one or two bent rods.. Don't rev the crap out of it till
you know it's going good...
Check air cleaner etc and remove any water...



your joking right. blow water out and away you go. if your extremely lucky it run and not sound like death. as for the gear box and diff just do a few oil changes to get the water out

 

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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:36 am 
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WILDEB wrote:
EBXR8380 wrote:
If it's hydraulicked ?? As said above take plugs out.. Crank engine over...
Install plugs and way you go... You won't do any more damage than whats
already been done...
Yes there could be one or two bent rods.. Don't rev the crap out of it till
you know it's going good...
Check air cleaner etc and remove any water...



your joking right. blow water out and away you go. if your extremely lucky it run and not sound like death. as for the gear box and diff just do a few oil changes to get the water out


i did say this

 

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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:14 am 
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WILDEB wrote:
WILDEB wrote:
EBXR8380 wrote:
If it's hydraulicked ?? As said above take plugs out.. Crank engine over...
Install plugs and way you go... You won't do any more damage than whats
already been done...

Yes there could be one or two bent rods.. Don't rev the crap out of it till
you know it's going good...
Check air cleaner etc and remove any water...



your joking right. blow water out and away you go. if your extremely lucky it run and not sound like death. as for the gear box and diff just do a few oil changes to get the water out


i did say this


this was the key point.

You won't do any more damage than whats already been done...
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:08 pm 
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tickford_6 wrote:
WILDEB wrote:
WILDEB wrote:
EBXR8380 wrote:
If it's hydraulicked ?? As said above take plugs out.. Crank engine over...
Install plugs and way you go... You won't do any more damage than whats
already been done...

Yes there could be one or two bent rods.. Don't rev the crap out of it till
you know it's going good...
Check air cleaner etc and remove any water...



your joking right. blow water out and away you go. if your extremely lucky it run and not sound like death. as for the gear box and diff just do a few oil changes to get the water out


i did say this



this was the key point.

You won't do any more damage than whats already been done...


not true. could get it running and it'll sound a bit s**t and then a while later it'll just randomly throw a leg out of bed or something along those lines

 

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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:38 pm 
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ashcook wrote:
WILDEB wrote:

not true.


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what ever you reckon :roll:

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:15 pm 
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WILDEB wrote:
tickford_6 wrote:
WILDEB wrote:
WILDEB wrote:
EBXR8380 wrote:
If it's hydraulicked ?? As said above take plugs out.. Crank engine over...
Install plugs and way you go... You won't do any more damage than whats
already been done...

Yes there could be one or two bent rods.. Don't rev the crap out of it till
you know it's going good...
Check air cleaner etc and remove any water...



your joking right. blow water out and away you go. if your extremely lucky it run and not sound like death. as for the gear box and diff just do a few oil changes to get the water out


i did say this



this was the key point.

You won't do any more damage than whats already been done...


not true. could get it running and it'll sound a bit s**t and then a while later it'll just randomly throw a leg out of bed or something along those lines


Yeah and if you got it going and it 'sounded a bit s**t' you'd scrap the engine anyway. Or you could not worry about it and just scrap it now. Or you could get it going and it'll run for years.

at worst it's scrap, by just getting it going you have nothing to loose.

To the OP

In any case, just claim it on insurance.
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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:46 pm 
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EFNA wrote:
one of the work utes BFII got flooded in 1m of water couple of days ago and the engine has seized, would it be possible to bring the engine back to life?


No one has asked this yet I dont think, but was the motor running when the water went in or was it parked and the water rose around it and just filled up from being under a metre of water? If its the later, pull the plugs and turn it over, it might well be fine. Id guess thered be a few things wrong with it though. If it were running when it went under id say its fooked. I wouldnt want to be the owner in a few yrs time when the rust issues begin...
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:24 am 
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dazza027 wrote:
EFNA wrote:
one of the work utes BFII got flooded in 1m of water couple of days ago and the engine has seized, would it be possible to bring the engine back to life?


No one has asked this yet I dont think, but was the motor running when the water went in ...

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well as far as i know its been driven into a deep puddle and died in the middle of it, water in the diff and box too. can get eng n trans for free but not interested in boat anchor, only info i can get at the moment is that its seized and there just gonna replace it


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 Post subject: Re: revive after water seize
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:20 am 
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imo as long as it wasnt at any hard throttle or higher than average rpm when it took on water it will more than likely be ok..
the engine may have stalled/sufficated before any major hydrolok damage was done??
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:26 pm 
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My Au swallowed water once, it did go on to make nearly 160 rwkw. When that motor came out it had a bent rod in cyl 6. Pull the plugs, inject some oil into the cylinders and just turn the key.

After all if you can get a new motor for nothing what's the harm in trying?

 

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