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blackjack_original wrote: haggis wrote: think of the BA as a brand new EA... EB and ED were significantly more refined cars (as the BF is to the BA) so i can believe that the EL & AU were a more robust car, they've had a lot of updates here and there over the years  How than do you explain the fact that EF>EL.  ef/el is pretty much an ed in a different shell. obviously updated eec-v, bbm and few little other s**t and bits. thats why most parts suit ea-el. au they started to try different things but still kept close ties to the e-series. the ba had some significant changes. engine managment is different and far more complex, engine itsself is slightly different, dohc and a few others.
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blackjack_original wrote: haggis wrote: think of the BA as a brand new EA... EB and ED were significantly more refined cars (as the BF is to the BA) so i can believe that the EL & AU were a more robust car, they've had a lot of updates here and there over the years How than do you explain the fact that EF>EL. hehehehe i think our opinions on this matter may be flawed with bias
EL has better cooling as it has a grill... umm, no problem with coil packs doesn't handle as boat-ish as an EF 
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haggis wrote: blackjack_original wrote: haggis wrote: think of the BA as a brand new EA... EB and ED were significantly more refined cars (as the BF is to the BA) so i can believe that the EL & AU were a more robust car, they've had a lot of updates here and there over the years How than do you explain the fact that EF>EL. hehehehe i think our opinions on this matter may be flawed with bias EL has better cooling as it has a grill... umm, no problem with coil packs doesn't handle as boat-ish as an EF I don't know about the Gli or Futura but the Fairmonts grill is a fake. Also the plastic cover between the headlights (under bonnet) means all air flow goes into the radiator from the vent in the lower half of the bumper. Would assume Gli and Futura is the same. EL is basically an updated EF
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I'd stay with an EF-AU just for the fuel usage BA's have.. Hopefully they've improved that in the BF's..
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I'd stay with an EF-AU just for the fuel usage BA's have.. Hopefully they've improved that in the BF's..
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cheersdude wrote: I'd stay with an EF-AU just for the fuel usage BA's have.. Hopefully they've improved that in the BF's..
Never heard of any "major" BA problems locally, just a few little niggles here and there. Something you kind of expect with new cars... As for sticking with an EF-AU becuase they use a little less juice, not sure I agree with that. BA's fuel consumption is greater than EF-AU, but BA is just sooooooo much better than EF-AU that the $2-$5 dollar a week extra fuel consumption isn't / shouldn't be an issue... BF is the G. O. A 6 speed BF XR6T or Fairmont Ghia (series 2 BF Ghias are rumoured to be getting the T engine) would be the ducks guts!!!
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cheersdude wrote: As for sticking with an EF-AU becuase they use a little less juice, not sure I agree with that. BA's fuel consumption is greater than EF-AU, but BA is just sooooooo much better than EF-AU that the $2-$5 dollar a week extra fuel consumption isn't / shouldn't be an issue...
I agree the BA is a better car.. But I think the fuel consumption is a little more then $2-$5 a week, my parents have a BA XT which gets 400 - 450 out of a tank, my AU gets 600 to a tank & its quicker..
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Didn't I hear somewhere that the BA's fuel consumption can be improved with a software upgrade. The BA spec sheet certainly suggests the fuel consumption should be better than what most are getting.
I agree with downingj, and when the BF Fairmont Ghia is a few years old with a price of 23,000 for a second hand one (with fuel prices turning buyers onto smaller cars ), will be a friggin bargain to be had IMO.
Although theres a flip side to that coin. I've been looking at a few 2002 VW AWD Passats, and there looking pretty good to me value wise. German made, leather heated seats, AWD, woodgrain, for around $26500 for a 2002 model if your lucky. Hmmm... |
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We servce our towns major taxi fleet, ive talked 2 some drivers about the BA and they think there great.
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go the luxury cars...
my au2 ghia pulls damn fine for a heavy assed luxo!
always wanted a ba, but glad i didnt... the bf should be a nice buy in a few years
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Posts: 413 Joined: 14th Nov 2004 Ride: 2000 AU II Fairmont Ghia Location: Brisbane Most of the time/Sydney Some of the time |
go the luxury cars...
my au2 ghia pulls damn fine for a heavy assed luxo!
always wanted a ba, but glad i didnt... the bf should be a nice buy in a few years
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why are EFs better then EL? the grills on the EL are fake :S. i looked at it and its blocked. i might make my own grill so that i get some airflow.
BAs are just fat. thats why they drink more. but BAs are over a better refined car then the EF/EL/AU. but i still prefer the EL phong =P~
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im with you there phong. the ba's haul some poontang, but when i am in my 330,000 kay ef auto sedan and i am beating the ba with 45000 kays which gets poorer fuel economy than the ef. hey my seats havent started falling apart yet. neither has my rear bumper. neither has the interior light, or the steering wheel. BA series 1 has got a lot of problems, read i have a ba series one driver seat for my computer seat at home.
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Kit wrote: Didn't I hear somewhere that the BA's fuel consumption can be improved with a software upgrade.
Yes. My mate and i did that. Took his BA to Ford and said fuel consumption is F**k. and they hooked it up to the computer and said na its all good but we will upgrade ur software for free. Then we were doing like a Litre better on the highway and half in the city. LOL
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I've seen plenty of BA taxis around. It's a credit to any model Falcon that they can clock up 800,000k's in the hands of those crazy bastards.. don't think I've ever seen a cabby around here who can drive properly and with some sense of mechanical sympathy.
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