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Hey all just looking for some advice.
Im not the smartest at all when it comes to cars but like everyone i love the thrill of flooring your car! Ive got a 2004 BA 6 cyl non turbo (on my p's) with -Wild cat headers -2 inch cat back system - Growler cold air intake Im just wondering what i should go for next. Crow cams or Flash tuner? Or any other mods you guys could recomend? cheers all. Rob |
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if you love the thrill of flooring your car like i do
get atomic cams... most b series people get atomic stage two, but stage 3 shouldnt be a problem.... a few people with b series falcons have tried crow cams (even if theyre "the best") and said that it's a b**ch to get tuned and $$$$$ once you get cams and all and i see youve already got a full exhaust system, maybe it's time to start thinking about a tune as well? n/a falcons can get at least 180 rwkw - 200rwkw (assuming the products/modifications are descent quality)
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Trav199 |
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hey mate you will need flash tuner to run cams.. So do both hahaha
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r0bbie |
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great i checked out the atomic cams but there in sydney. Do you guys happen to know of any ones down in melb?
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Yer im running atomic gear in my n/a way better then anything out there.. Give Brad a call at atomic he will help you out. Stage 3 atomics would be perfect for a daily driver.
Check my build thread out on other things you can do. |
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Hey mate, i am in a similar position to you with my BF, done the basic mods but i want to do everything i need before i get a tune so i only need to tune once. The other thing is i dont want to go crazy with the mods, basically the best bang for buck is what i am after. I will be fitting an under drive pulley kit, they are only a few hundred bux and give you good high end torque, perhaps look into that as well? I heard changing the cams in the ba/bf isn't worth it as much as the e series cars due to the cost and the minimum gains
Trav - what do you think the atomic stage 3 cams are worth? I will be keeping my eye on this thread to see what others suggest so i can pinch some ideas lol Cheers Phil ps lol the stage 5 battle master cams sounds cool hahaha - http://www.atomicperformanceproducts.com/camshafts.html
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phil545 wrote: Hey mate, i am in a similar position to you with my BF, done the basic mods but i want to do everything i need before i get a tune so i only need to tune once. The other thing is i dont want to go crazy with the mods, basically the best bang for buck is what i am after. I will be fitting an under drive pulley kit, they are only a few hundred bux and give you good high end torque, perhaps look into that as well? I heard changing the cams in the ba/bf isn't worth it as much as the e series cars due to the cost and the minimum gains Trav - what do you think the atomic stage 3 cams are worth? I will be keeping my eye on this thread to see what others suggest so i can pinch some ideas lol Cheers Phil ps lol the stage 5 battle master cams sounds cool hahaha - http://www.atomicperformanceproducts.com/camshafts.html there is a price list on atomic cams website: Quote: 306550-pr Cams, 257/257 DOHC 6 cyl $1,155.00 Stage 3 High performance inlet and exhaust cams suit DOHC For +fitting + tune
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Trav199 |
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What I feel can be a problem when getting a n/a6 is that many tuners are not to bothered the chase the tune as much as if it was a turbo car.. I see many people only gain 10rwkw from a tune.. Now regardless of my overal power figure when I got my car first tuned is I got 21rwkw gain from the tune. And I know my tuner zain spent 5hrs on the tune trying to get the beat out of it..
Stage 3 atomic cams are $1150 a fair bit more then crow but I feel the setup is alot better. It can be expensive to fit and tune them but if you have a good tuner who will chase the tune good gains torque and power will be made.. Ohhh yes the battle masters lol massive!!!!!!!! Mine are a touch smaller then that haha man they would be a prick to tune |
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r0bbie |
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im thinking bout getting the x3 flash tune.
like ive said ive got the growler, catback and extractors. What rwkw should i expect fro this tune? cheers |
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u will see a wayy better gain from a custom dyno tune.. like trav said before, ppl only see 10rwkw gains from generic tunes from capa, or were ever u get it from, which is what happened to me, but i spent the extra $$$ to get it custom dynoed tuned...what a good decision that was.. i made 151rwkw from generic tune and xaust (full system) but after custom tune was 166rwkw, which made such a difference to the feel of the car, alot more responsive, and threw me back into my seat alot harder and kept me there..lol
i reckon cams are great if u can afford them, it is true that they cost more than wat they put out, but if properly tuned with ur other mods, u will see MASSIVE torque gains from 40kmph - 100kmph my mate put stage 3 crow cam in his na xr6 and actually LOST power from 0 - 40kmph, massive gains from 40 ++ then seemed pretty average (nothing changed) from 120++, but he went and got it custom tuned, and everything evened out nicely, he saw gains all the way through the rev range from0 all the way to 6000rpm... but i would say expect between 150rwkw and 170rwkw DEPENDING on if u flash or dyno...and other circumstances aswell |
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Trav199 |
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Great advice!!!^^^
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