Damn .... but then they'd still fetch BIG money from a wreckers as well.

The getting all the electronics to work as well

It is a game of Patience my dear, Patience.
Or you could find wreckers in Europe, say in Germany….

Customs is 10% of Cost and Freight and then 10% GST.

Or, you may get lucky and find a good cheap one at a friendly wrecker.
Find one that deals with type of vehicles that have a good set of Xenon Headlight. i.e. BMW, Volvo, MB, Hmmm Ferrari, Lamborghini (Just joking).
Take your tools and visit the wreck yard.
Go in the office and start bargaining.
Since you are going to do the job yourself it will be much cheaper.
And if you don’t get the price you want, you leave. And come back later or go to someone else.
If you manage to get the right price, start dismantling everything that has to do with the headlight assy and the discharge units.
On most European cars the discharge sit on the back of the headlight assy.

Have fun,
mavs19

Hmm .. interesting indeed ... at least they mounted the ballasts on the back of the lights.

I might search for some Euro or Honda wreckers if i can.

xenons are voool yeha. i want dome projectortd. im fukng pdsed at them oimmment. hell yes. projecters are sencsational f**k yeah.

mavis bloke i have stilll gptta talke some pics of my HIOD beam for your assignemnt..
f**k im cobcerntrating hard on ty[imt the correct wordks but i have had tooooo much to drink. hell yes

Well, i am happy to lend my EF to the cause. just as long as someone can supply me with a kit free of charge!!

lol at regie!!

I heard that "J Racing" offered any one who wants to drive to adelaide a free kit and install just to get "meccas tune's" name out and the hid kits they are selling...
Don't know if there's any truth to it, but it might be worth looking into for the SA boys.

Would it be easy enough to fit the projectors from a commodore y-z series into an au falcon headlight? With no intention to install HID kit, though maybe one at a later date?

Also why is it that they change colours when going over bumps yet so many other projectors dont?

So the 6 million dollar question: Why is it that HID lights change colours when going over bumps yet so many other projectors dont?

Well, this coloration is the result of the light projectors; the lenses: how transparent it is, the curvature of the lens, the grooves in the lens (some lenses are clear some have groves etched in them); the projector assembly, the shield, and the reflector bowl.
All these components work together to produce a unique signature of the light in that particular Projector design.
In some projectors, the lens curvature at the edge bends the white light producing a "prism effect".
White light is broken into it's primary colours.
Since blue lights has high energy, it is absorbed last and travels further than any other colour.
So with this prism effect, you will notice that these HIDs are only purple and blue from the sides, the top, and the bottom edges, BUT are always daylight white on the road and in the beam pattern.
This can be demonstrated when you watch an oncoming car fitted with these HIDs, hit a pot hole or speed bump in the road and the car's nose pitches up and down.
The headlights will flicker and "throw colours off", but returns to a solid white beam pattern immediately when the light beam is levelled.

Trying to imitate this colour-flickering effect with a solid-state blue or purple bulb is only detrimental to lighting performance, nor does it fool anyone, and most importantly it endangers other motorists around you.

Blue light has what is call a very high diffuse density, which causes it to radiate outwards as opposed to forwards.
Which, results in a wide glow of light outside the beam pattern that is blinding to oncoming motorists you share the road with.

As mentioned earlier: A blue HID bulb will produce colour bleed around the headlight, around the objects it lights up, outside of the beam pattern, and around the cut off line.
This is effect is known as "glare". See pic.
Making HID kits installed in a Reflector designed for Halogen illegal.

An Improperly installed HID kits will ultimately cause an accident on the roads.

There are 2 different types of Projectors.
Those designed for Halogen bulbs and those for Xenon Discharge bulbs.
Installing a Xenon discharged bulb in a projector designed for Halogen would be creating the same problems and headaches as installing a Xenon discharged bulb in a reflector designed for Halogen.
The result would be detrimental to both the Driver of the vehicle and all oncoming traffic.
No a good idea at all. Since you will hardly be successful in creating a proper and legal beam pattern.



First of all if the projectors are designed for Xenon and you install a Halogen bulb, you will be having a similar problem as in the case above.
You would also probably need to have a conversion ring between the 2 types of bulbs as well.
So it is not going to work properly.

Secondly, preforming the operation of retrofitting a Projector in any headlight assy which is not designed for a projector, is a very difficult and time consuming task and should only be done by an expert.

As they say on TV; “Children, Please don’t try this at homeâ€￾.

Have fun,
mavs19

 

 

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Yeah i understand what you mean. I know the holden lights don't use projectors just normal halogen globes. Thats why I was thinking of putting the projectors in and leaving them halogen.

From all that info just sounds like too many things can go wrong unless you know exactly what you are doing so I think ill have to give it a miss

Sounds like you have had a hell of a lot to drink there ... takes a hell of a lot before I can't see the keyboard properly ... hee hee.

I might be able to have a good look at a set of Honda Accord Euro headlights (factory HIDs) ... and going to see if their projector lense is suitable to my needs.

May need to swap my globe to a H1 style though... it depends what Honda uses as standard though .. might even be a HB3.

Also had a look at my globe too ... the V-shaped shield under the actual globe is removable too ... so if i get either style projector as shown in the pictures before by MAVS19 ... I can either keep the shield on or remove it (uses v-small Phillips head screws).

Getting closer and closer to sorting mine out soon.

Hi Mechan1k,

We still haven’t started our quest and it looks like we had our first casualty. Sad to see that BlinkAU is giving up.

On the subject of a Factory fitted HIDs and choice of a bulb or swapping type of bulb etc. etc.

If the HID is a proper OEM one, I believe that the Manufacturers have a D2S bulb in that Projector.
Normally the type of bulb by OEM in vehicles are either D2R or D2S with a D2R ir D2S socket.
These sockets are different than Halogen. The bulbs used in After Market Xenon kits MUST adapt to the original Halogen sockets of the vehicle in question. See pic. (Pic 1 is the type of bulb fittings, Pic 2 shows the fittings from above, Pic 3 is the socket in the projector)

So, don’t buy anything, order bulbs etc. before you have found your Projectors. Bits may not fit at all.

Here is the order or Priority of things:

1-Find your Projectors.

2-If possible remove everything from the vehicle you are "borrowing" the HID kit from.

3-Practise on an old headlight assy., before you dismantle and cut your pwn vehicles headlight assy.

4-Plan, Plan and Plan again what you are going to do before you do anything, or else you may regret it all.

5-ONLY, and only when you have done your planning and drawn what you are planning to do on paper, preferably done a muck-up model in cardboard and it all looks like being in the right place.
6-Then and ONLY then, wash you hands, say your goodbyes and start the project.

May the force be with you.

Have fun,
mavs19

 

 

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Nooooooooooooooooooooo ... don't give up



First thing I was going to do is get me the headlight and have a good look at how the globe connects into the projector ... from the pics you have shown I can see there is going to be a difference from an OEM HID globe and the aftermarket globe bases (as they are made for the halogen backing).

When it comes to putting the projector into the headlight ... I have a mate who has been playing with an EF headlight with one ... and has successfully wedged one in (without adhering it permanently) and tested successfully ... so i will be using his expertise here.

I may be able to make up a template/adaptor for the globe base to mount into the OEM Honda Euro Projector ... but we will see when the time comes at looking at the back of one of these.

I'll let you know how it goes ... and will try and post up some good pics when the time comes too.

Also from what I was told the Honda Euro projector has the shield in it .. and this shield is also adjustable from the outside of the projector housing too ... so will be fiddling with angle, etc.

I'll let you know how i go with the progress.

Well, as far as can recall, there are few different types of projectors that are used by Honda. 3 that I could find. see Pic. 1.

Pic 2 is the one that is most common.

The shutter mechanism used by these guys looks like Pic.3.

And the ultimate version of Xenon HID Projector with self-levelling and Hi/Lo shutter mechanism is Pic.4. Note the Bezel on the left.

The bulb used in these projectors will probably (99.99%) be a D2S .Pic.5.

Here is an idea for you, Take step by step pictures all the way from start to finish.

Have fun,
mavs19

 

 

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Here they are.

Have fun,
mavs19

 

 

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