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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:39 pm 
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Can't see pic 4 ... so in pic 3 that's the shutter adjuster for the beam adjustment I take it.

I wonder if a gyroscope is used for the auto-levelling system in the high-end units????

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:44 pm 
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If that's the case with Honda using a D2S globe ... I'll need to see if i can get a true D2S globe from the company I got my kit from ... or if i can find a company that uses the same connectors I have in mine

Will be having a good look at the headlights tomorrow evening after work ... will take my camera along as well and get some pics too.

will see what i need after i examine the lights.

Mmmm ... may have to drop back to a 4300K OEM globe (unless i find me another suitable 6000K globe) ... but behind a projector I think a 4300K globe will be better than my current 6000K setup anyway.

And less annoying for drivers and less obvious for cops too.

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:14 pm 
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Still having problem with Pic.4 ?? It’s is the High End Projector.

Here is how the Hi/Lo mechanism on this particular Projector works.
To make it easier to see how it works, the first picture shows the Projector on it’s side.

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:20 pm 
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If they use a D2S there is not much to do than use the same.

Yes, you are absolutely right, you do not need more than 4300K. The Projectors do a lot of difference than normal reflectors.

And if you can't do much with your old kit, sell it.

Looking forward to see the pictures you take tomorrow.

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:36 pm 
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By the way the shutter in this case also acts as a "Pattern Plate".

I have seen some people using the Fog or Driving light Projectors and use them as their headlight Projectors.
Since the headlight projectors are the only ones having a "Patter Plate", using the other type of Projectors (Fog or Driving) will defeat the purpose, since you will not be able to have a proper Beam Pattern.

However, if you MUST use a Fog or Driving Projector, you need to cut and make a “Pattern Plateâ€￾.

That is why choosing the perfect and correct Projector from the start is very important and will save you a lot of time, effort and unnecessary headache.

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Hey Guys,

Just an update.. I now have 6000K H1 Low and H3 High beam HID's in the ED XR front end. Had to adjust the low beam down about 30*.. the top of the projector pattern was aiming well above the oncomming cars roof :P

All looks good, however I fear that the H1 low's supplied were 8000K, despite what is written on the box, they look BLUE compared to the H3 highs :( I have contacted the seller to find out what is going on.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:12 am 
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I have een Dave (MRE-40L) using a headlight projector (with pattern plate) as a foglight in the bottom of the EF front bar ... works a treat.

I can see now how the Hi/low works ... the shield swings out of the way.

I'll be using an existing headlight projector ... so that should be fine.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:17 am 
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Hey Guys,

Just an update.. I now have 6000K H1 Low and H3 High beam HID's in the ED XR front end. Had to adjust the low beam down about 30*.. the top of the projector pattern was aiming well above the oncomming cars roof :P

All looks good, however I fear that the H1 low's supplied were 8000K, despite what is written on the box, they look BLUE compared to the H3 highs :( I have contacted the seller to find out what is going on.


Brad ... I think it might be the projector that might be giving the extra blue tinge as well ... then again though ... they may have sent you an 8000K globe.

But I have seen some Lexus' and Audi with really blue HIDs ... but I'd say they are the 4300K globes ... I'd say the projector is causing it.

Would be cool to see though.

I think I might have to have a look for a set of H1 like your's Brad ... cos the brand I have has the 2-second delay for shut off ... not good for high beam ... by the sounds of it ... your's doesn't (better suited to high beams).

What time are you at home this arvo/evening????
Cos I am heading over to Dave's place to check out the Euro headlights after work .... if you are home I'd be interested to see your kit at work in the dark.

 

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And guess what ... I left my bloody camera at home too ... grrrr.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:16 pm 
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the blue HID lights are hectix
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:45 pm 
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thanh wrote:
the blue HID lights are hectix
Don't just throw a comment, “Please explainâ€￾ (in more detail).
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:07 pm 
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mavs19 wrote:
thanh wrote:
the blue HID lights are hectix
Don't just throw a comment, “Please explainâ€￾ (in more detail).
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Well, it is seems that this comment was either some sort of digestive disorder or maybe the result of one = GAS.
We will all have to go to our graves no wiser.....

So let’s get on with the important issue of:

Retrofitting HID Xenon Projector


HONEY, Dinner is Ready!!!!

Step 1:

How to Take Apart Your Headlight

Your headlight is being held together by rubber glue.
To take apart your headlight, you will need to soften the rubber glue.
First, remove any attached bulbs and wires. Also remove the clips that hold together the headlight housing and the front cover.

Preheat your conventional oven at 150C for about 5~7 minutes. Turn it off, Place your headlight inside and let it sit for another 5~7 minutes. (Note: this step may be different for different ovens and different headlights)

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The rubber glue should now be soft and gooey.
Take out the headlight.

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Pry open your headlight using a wide flathead screwdriver.
This step would be easier if you can have someone help you out.

You will have 5 minutes or so, to do this before the glue hardens again.
Take your time and be careful and don’t let the sticky glue touch any components.

Pry open a little, then separate the glue with your fingers and let it retract.
Then pry open a little more and separate the cheese.
Repeat this process until you are done.

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Have a bottle of Eucalyptus Oil handy, in case you get some of the glue on your fingers or elsewhere and want to remove it.


NOTE:
Under NO Circumstances touch the reflector Chrome with your fingers.

Never use silicon inside the reflector or the headlight assy. When silicon gets hot it will release gases that will damage the chrome on the reflectors.


Next time Part 2.

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:12 am 
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Pics aren't working for me .. but that's cool.

I had a look at a few projectors the other night .. and close up as well.

The Honda Euro will need the D2S globes ... but hooking it up might be a little difficult though .... it looks just like Picture 2 you posted on the previous page. (Closed type unit)


The other Projector i saw was the Holden Commodore (higher model) projector and it uses a H11 style globe .... and is a larger projector lense used as well. (Open type projector) ... might be easier to fit one of these ... and also getting replacement globes for these are going to be easier too from what i have seen.

The Mazda6 projector is open as well .... but a very long unit .... so fitting it might be a pain where the battery is mounted.

All of these projectors have the shields inside them as well.

I had a look through the projector lense and I now see how it projects the beam with the shield on the bottom ... works just like the human eye ... it turns everything upside down.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:55 pm 
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I have just uploaded new pictures so hopefully it should work now.

The reason for my choice of projectors used by BMW is exactly what you mentioned. Lack of space on the battery side.
You can probably find a complete set (Bi-Xenon projectors, bulb and blasts) on the US eBay.
Look for Bosch or Hella Bi-Xenon Projectors. They definitely will fit.

Well done, you picked up the upside down picture created by the projector.

If you chose the Holden projector, you will not be getting the Xenon effect. Since they use a Halogen, be it H11, the light will not be as strong and bright as Xenon,. It will be a sort of glorified Halogen Projector. Not the same.

So, if you are looking to Retrofit Projectors, look at the best option now, so you won’t regret your choice later.

Bi-Xenon Projectors is the ONLY way to go.

By the way remember that a lot of the projector length will fin inside the headlight assy.

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:07 pm 
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I had a look at a set of EF Fairmont headlights that had already had one projector fitted from a Mazda Astina fitted into it ... it's a LONG projector seeing as the V6 Astinas had thin headlight that were deep.

I measured the light and into the AU headlight and it should be fine.

I was thinking of using the H11-style HID globe and put it in the projector .... and see how it goes ... I am still looking though. Surely the Xenon globe behind the Halogen projector should be similar to the HID projector.

So there are bi-xenon projectors out there ... I am going to have a look and see if i can get my high/lows to work .... have spoken to a few people and it may be a case of using a resistor in the circuit ... and it should get it to work (fingers crossed).

I might have a look for those projectors you mentioned ... as there are so many styles of projectors out there it si baffling trying to find the right one .... they are literally all different in design.

And I have to think about getting a globe that will fit in there that I can hook up to my current loom as well ... if i can find a projector that can use my current globe setup .... I'll be happy.

I need to research some more .. and find out costs, etc.

 

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