just a quick question.. how about those NA fairlanes headlights?

What about them?
Have fun,
mavs19

hehe umm the projector bit in them could be used couldn't it? Cause they'd be a bit cheaper, but then i guess ya gotta think about how good they are.

Has anyone experimented?

Unfortunately, last I checked “The Projector bit in themâ€￾, was and I believe still remains ONLY a Halogen version.

As I have mentioned earlier throughout this thread, using a reflector or a projector designed for Halogen, then inserting a Xenon bulb would not work properly.

At this point on this thread we are way past trying to stich things that will not work properly. We are in the process of creating REAL Xenon Daylight effect.

Answer to your question: Yes we played with NA Halogen Projectors before Xenon light system was on the market.
Result: 10-15% better than a normal OEM Halogen Reflector.
Nothing compared to a Real Bi-Xenon Projector which gives out 300% more Pure White light than a Halogen one.

As soon as Mechan1k has located his Bi-Xenon Projectors we will go through how retrofit the projectors properly etc….

OK ... I have finally posted up some pics of my current setup with the HID globe in the standard halogen refletor housing.

MAVS19 .... see if you can see the what type of globe is in there ... it's looks like one of the D2x globes ... which ever one was with the shield.

Here are the current pics.

Front view lights on

Front passenger-side close lights on

Front passenger-side extreme close up lights on

Front passenger-side extreme close up lghts off.


So far though I am still trying to locate an entire Bi-xenon headlight assembly ... still on the lookout for it though.

replace your parkers with white LEDs, and they won't look so crappy in comparison.

IV always hated those aftermarket headlights but i must say they look dam fine in that second picture.

Im thinking of putting in some of the projectors into my normal au lights.... the holden colour changing ones. I dont want xenon. Would this be a easy conversion? Im worried about the cutting bit and the installing bit.

Very nice looking, what brand are those ones

That is a very nice looking set up.

You forgot to post pictures of your Hi/Lo beam on a wall in front of the vehicle.

OK, the only picture that helps is the last one. Lights off.
I don't see any ring in the middle of the bulb, so to me it looks like you got the D2S which is the one without the "Glare Shield".
Another factor is the length of the Xenon bulb compared to the original one, which distorts the focal centre and the outcome is a beam pattern way out of focus.
It is like looking at a football match from one end of the oval using reading glasses. It makes everything very blur and out of focus in the distance, but everything is very clear in front of your nose. (No good for seeing the match.
But very good for reading a news paper).

If you look at pic1 (front view lights on), you will notice that you have 2 “trianglesâ€￾ of light beam in each reflector.
If you compare it with the H4 setup you will see a totally different picture.
Which is the correct beam pattern

However, by lowering the headlights as much as you have done you have eliminated most of the glare and the “Hi beamâ€￾ effect that these aftermarket kits produce, which obviously shortens the distance that the beam spreads in front of the vehicle, drastically.

I will leave a bit more info on the next post answering BlinkAU In regards to cutting the reflector to retrofit a projector etc.

 

 

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There's a few people that have fiddle with it ... and I have seen the near finished product ... I am not too keen on cutting my headlights up ... but i know someone who i can trust with the job though ... will be compensating him on his work too.

I know i am slack .. but I am not confident in my hackwork.

MAVS.

I still haven't got the hi-low working yet ... just havn't had a chance. Was going to just replace the system with a Euro OEM system ... but haven't had the chance to look for that either.

Yeah i get weird off-shoots of light ... there are 2 beams that shoot straight up in the air (from the reflection of the bottom of the headlight).

The drivers' side is more on the road ... but it also has a higher stray beam (hence why i have lowered the beam so much) ... it shoots off to the left on an upward angle (so most of it now is angling off the road.

The passenger side is good though ... the stray beam is well off the road.

I find though the back of the HID globe moves slightly in it's mounted position (not when driving) ... I can move this slightly from left to right and this makes the beam pattern change dramatically.

The driver's side beam becomes flatter and has no stray light when I move the back of the globe to the left (pushing the light to the right slightly).

I still have decent range on the passenger side without shining too high (currently at bumper level of car in front at 2 car lengths away) ... driver's side is down though.

I just need good highbeams now ... and for the H4 highbeam part to work now ... grrr ... gotta get thet looked at now. The halogen inserts are way off in adjustment (due to the aftermarket headlights) and are nowhere near as bright at the HIDs .. and the halogen inserts are 100w as well.

I'll try and get a better night shot against a wall or on the road ... and I HOPE to get the highbeam section working as well.

Have been meaning to do this for a while ... I just haven't had the time to go out and get one really.

I really need to get my act together.

The movement of the globe problem soundz like you need to adjust and tighten the Retaining Spring Clip at the back of the reflector.
Take it completely out and bend it so it has a sharper V in the middle, then reinstall it.
This should keep the bulb tighter in place.
Also look carefully at the base of both globes and compare them to see if there is any difference.

BE CAREFULL NOT TO BRAKE OR DAMAGE THE RETURN WIRE OF THE BULBS.
It can be fixed but what a hassle.


Also look very carefully are both your bulbs (when they are turned OFF) see if they are mounted in the exact same position and are the same distance from top/bottom of the reflector and make sure that they are pushed in properly and have the same length of bulb sticking out.

As you know (and if you didn’t, now you do) the reflectors are a bit different but should have more or less the same pattern grooved in them.

If you remember the drawing I posted earlier: because of the shape of these reflectors (slanting a bit) and the extra length of bulb sticking out in the reflectors;
1- your focal centre is changed
2- light beams reflect of the bottom of the reflectors up in the air

I know that your Hi beam don’t work, so if you can take a picture of the beam pattern, when your headlights are on Lo and if possible take a picture from the front of the vehicle at night some 20-25 metres away in front of it. I can tell you a bit more about what we could do, if anything at all.

I am about to post some more Technical Info for BlinkAU which explains the problem with these kit in more detail.

On the subject of Cutting and having a steady hand or as you put it â€￾ not confident in my hackworkâ€￾ .

“Any task is and will be as difficult as you want it to be.
It could be a piece of cake or just impossible.
Everything can be done if you try hard enough.â€￾ The Man on Top of The Mountain (Me)

Remember, when you cut the old reflector to retrofit a Xenon or Bi-Xenon Projector, all you want is to cut a circle big enough to fit the portion of the Projector which is going to stick out.
The OLD reflector is being replaced with the reflector of the Projector.
It does not matter if your cut is not 100% PERFECT, since you can hide the edges with a shroud of some kind.
Most people paint the old reflector BLACK to avoid any extra reflection from their old reflectors that may interfere with the beam from the Projector.

When you find a complete set of Projectors we will go through all these issues and a bit more.

By the way try for parts or a complete kit on US eBay .
Here is what was sold recentlyl look at the price:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

When the lights are turned off I have had a look at the angle of both globes .... and they are identical in placement on both side.

When i mean by movement in the globe ... it moves with a little bit of a nudge (as the back of the globe is much deeper (sticks out further) than a halogen.

The retainer clip is pretty tight in place (was a pain to undo and clip back in place). It allows a small amount of pivot.

But while driving though ... there is no movement whatsoever.

Also the H4 template/backing plate on the globe sits perfecting in the H4 slots in the back of the headlight .. there's no other way for it to sit.

I'd say also me beam pattern is off a bit due to the cheaper headlights I have (see ... cheaper than factory Ford headlights through Ozeparts).

I have also put the HID globe and the original H4 halogen globe next to each other and they are identical in "length" from the bacse plate to the top of the globe as well ... so focal point should be pretty similar.

Once i get the HID projectors though ... beam pattern and height should be a problem as I'll get them secured into the existing reflector and use the adjustor screws to adjust height later on.

Headlights are from Ozeparts.
The HID H4 kit is made by JSM ... can be purchased from JA Racing in Melbourne.

Not sure in the exact brand of the globe ... but I am prety sure they use GE (General Electric) globes.