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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:35 pm 
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i just got the kit off ebay and they took about 10 mins to install. just plug and play.
but if u wanna do the HID projector mod to your standard lights that may take a fair while to do

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:41 pm 
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Anyone know what intensity and HIDs the new 2005 beamers have?

I mean, you see a brand new beamer, and a HID conversion side by side and front on, and it's HIGHLY evident which is the nicer looking one.

Do the beamers have a specific style//intensity//wattage?

If I did the conversion, I'd like to basically have a copycat of the ones the new beamers have.

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:49 pm 
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OK ... I found this on the XenonDepot website in the US.

http://www.xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=71

All Hella products ... this looks interesting MAVS19 ... complete kit as well. I might enquire and see if it's the real deal as well.

$425US for the full kit with projectors as well.

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Only this is they have 9006 connectors ... might be able to rig up some H4 connectors for this ... or bypass it some way.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:51 pm 
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Anyone know what intensity and HIDs the new 2005 beamers have?

I mean, you see a brand new beamer, and a HID conversion side by side and front on, and it's HIGHLY evident which is the nicer looking one.

Do the beamers have a specific style//intensity//wattage?

If I did the conversion, I'd like to basically have a copycat of the ones the new beamers have.

Matt


Best bet is to get a set of BMW headlights with the full wiring kit and ballasts ... can get them off Ebay from the US ... also the Audi TT ones as well. Go for the Bi-Xenon if you can (if u currently have H4 headlights though) .

As far as I know the HID low beam (on the Bi-xenon kits) are rated at 35W ... but the ignitors/ballasts take a lot of amperage to ignite them. OEM colour temperature is 4300K. MAVS19 can fill you in with more details though

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:03 pm 
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how do u go about doing this conversion (cant be stuffed reading through 15pages :P)

Im quite interested, Regie's lights are bright as all f**k.. I want some! haha


I have a similar kit to Regie's in my ute (I gave him the idea after he saw my kit working at night).

I am finding with the standard halogen reflector in the stock headlight that the beam pattern is way off due to the different type of light ... I am still not getting the desired beam ... and getting a lot of glare for on-coming traffic.

Hence why i am now looking out of a proper OEM Porjector HID kit from some Euro model car that I can get my hands on ... the work is more involved (pullign headlights apart and modifying the light itself with the projector) ... but I know when i am finished I will get the perfect flat top beam ... no glare ... and better distance range out of my beams .... no dark-ish spots either.

It will look just like those new BMWs/Honda S2000/Audis/Merc/Honda Euros out there on the road.

And it will be retrofitted into my AU headlights as well. When i get the time and the money to get off my a**.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:11 pm 
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{USERNAME} wrote:
Anyone know what intensity and HIDs the new 2005 beamers have?

I mean, you see a brand new beamer, and a HID conversion side by side and front on, and it's HIGHLY evident which is the nicer looking one.

Do the beamers have a specific style//intensity//wattage?

If I did the conversion, I'd like to basically have a copycat of the ones the new beamers have.

Matt


Well said Matt.
That is exactly what I have used on my vehicle.
All New BMW bitz.

The intensity is called Kelvin. BMW and all OEM Xenon Projectors use 4300K.
Occasionally and in some rare cases they may use up to 5000K.

I still have not explained how to retrofit a Xenon or Bi-Xenon Projector in more detail on this thread.
I am just waiting for someone to get the bitz needed so we can go through it all.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:16 pm 
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{USERNAME} wrote:
Anyone know what intensity and HIDs the new 2005 beamers have?

I mean, you see a brand new beamer, and a HID conversion side by side and front on, and it's HIGHLY evident which is the nicer looking one.

Do the beamers have a specific style//intensity//wattage?

If I did the conversion, I'd like to basically have a copycat of the ones the new beamers have.

Matt


Well said Matt.
That is exactly what I have used on my vehicle.
All New BMW bitz.

The intensity is called Kelvin. BMW and all OEM Xenon Projectors use 4300K.
Occasionally and in some rare cases they may use up to 5000K.

I still have not explained how to retrofit a Xenon or Bi-Xenon Projector in more detail on this thread.
I am just waiting for someone to get the bitz needed so we can go through it all.


MAVS19 ... just out of interest .. how much did all your new BMW bits cost you???? I'd imagine that brand new parts would be pretty pricey though.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:17 pm 
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OK ... I found this on the XenonDepot website in the US.

http://www.xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=71

All Hella products ... this looks interesting MAVS19 ... complete kit as well. I might enquire and see if it's the real deal as well.

$425US for the full kit with projectors as well.

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Only this is they have 9006 connectors ... might be able to rig up some H4 connectors for this ... or bypass it some way.


Well done.
Go on their forum and see For Sale or post a request to Buy.
Ask if anyone has got a complete kit to sell.
They some times even have projectors with RHD shields in them.
Both Xenon and Bi-Xenon are available.
Ask for pics and all. Specially on the beam pattern and all the history of the kit. i.e. where it comes from, what car, how long it has been working and if it is from a car involved in an accident.
If it is be very careful, the bitz specially the bulbs may have been damaged.
Don't worry about the connectors we will fix it later.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:22 pm 
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OK ... I found this on the XenonDepot website in the US.

http://www.xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=71

All Hella products ... this looks interesting MAVS19 ... complete kit as well. I might enquire and see if it's the real deal as well.

$425US for the full kit with projectors as well.


Only this is they have 9006 connectors ... might be able to rig up some H4 connectors for this ... or bypass it some way.


Well done.
Go on their forum and see For Sale or post a request to Buy.
Ask if anyone has got a complete kit to sell.
They some times even have projectors with RHD shields in them.
Both Xenon and Bi-Xenon are available.
Ask for pics and all. Specially on the beam pattern and all the history of the kit. i.e. where it comes from, what car, how long it has been working and if it is from a car involved in an accident.
If it is be very careful, the bitz specially the bulbs may have been damaged.
Don't worry about the connectors we will fix it later.


OK ... by the looks of it ... it's a new kit ... off-the-shelf.
I know what you said about so-called "off-the-shelf" kits not being the real deal ... but this is the first kit I have seen that does look like it is a brand new kit using all "good" parts ... interesting to see where the projectors came from though.

I will be asking about this though ... will update with more details soon. If they do sell these full kits as new ... at that price ... it's much better than 2nd hand parts.

I will be asking very indepth questions (which you have asked previously in this thread ... and will see what i get back from them)

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:24 pm 
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The included Hella Bi-Xenon projectors will utilize a shield to control between high and low beam transitions. This shield will be powered by a 12-volt solenoid. The dimensions for the Hella bi-xenon projectors are 6" length, 4.25" width, 3.75" height. The diameter of the lens is 3".

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:29 pm 
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Anyone know what intensity and HIDs the new 2005 beamers have?

I mean, you see a brand new beamer, and a HID conversion side by side and front on, and it's HIGHLY evident which is the nicer looking one.

Do the beamers have a specific style//intensity//wattage?

If I did the conversion, I'd like to basically have a copycat of the ones the new beamers have.

Matt


Well said Matt.
That is exactly what I have used on my vehicle.
All New BMW bitz.

The intensity is called Kelvin. BMW and all OEM Xenon Projectors use 4300K.
Occasionally and in some rare cases they may use up to 5000K.

I still have not explained how to retrofit a Xenon or Bi-Xenon Projector in more detail on this thread.
I am just waiting for someone to get the bitz needed so we can go through it all.


MAVS19 ... just out of interest .. how much did all your new BMW bits cost you???? I'd imagine that brand new parts would be pretty pricey though.


A LO$$$$$$$$$$$$T.
Ask a BMW dealer for a set of New Bi-xenon headlights used on the 5 series and then tell him that you just want the projectors and the rest is of it is of no use to you and if he can give you a deal on the projectors, the bulbs and the ballasts????
Also ask him if he wants to buy the rest of the headlight assy back.

Be, prepared though, to hear some nice language from the other end of the phone.

Since we are experimenting with different designs in our studio, cost sometimes is not the main issue.
Thank God for that.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:49 pm 
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That's fair enough ... I can understand what trouble you went through trying to obtain a kit.

Any other good questions I can ask this company in the US about these kits ... I have asked for high-res pics of beam pattern during operation ... anything else i need to know???

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:54 pm 
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More details:

The included Hella Bi-Xenon projectors will utilize a shield to control between high and low beam transitions. This shield will be powered by a 12-volt solenoid. The dimensions for the Hella bi-xenon projectors are 6" length, 4.25" width, 3.75" height. The diameter of the lens is 3".



As you may have noticed, there are 2 camps on the OEM front.

Camp 1 uses Bosch and camp 2 uses Valeo (which now is in bed with Osram).
Majority of European Projectors used by OEM are Bosch.

I can line up over 76 different manufacturers of Projectors all looking different, with different dimensions, lenses, les holders, reflectors etc.

The Bi-xenon sold by Hella is a very good one but yet has to be used on a bigger scale by OEM.

Bosch takes the cake.

The picture you have posted does not look like a Bi-Xenon Projector.

Start looking for a set of Bosch E46 Bi-Xenon.
It is used by BMW, Audi, MB…….etc.
Not only do they go very well with Bosch Xenon bulbs but also with Osram Xenarc D2S 4300K bulbs.
MAKE SURE that the Projectors come with bulb holders.
Bosch has a slim ballasts with igniters made for the above setup.

And remember not everything sold on a website is absolutely perfectly matched and made for each other.
They may work good but not perfect.

I strongly believe that Bosch, Valeo and other manufacturers have more time, money, knowledge and expertise to put together a package than few guys on a web based business.
Don’t you agree?

Buy the best, forget the rest.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:58 pm 
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Thanks for the info.
I'll ask them about their kit ... and will post up their response anyway ... and see what you think about it.

But will still be on the look out for the BMW kit as well.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:13 pm 
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Thanks for the info.
I'll ask them about their kit ... and will post up their response anyway ... and see what you think about it.

But will still be on the look out for the BMW kit as well.


Sorry, the pics you posted were too small and I could not see them properly, The Projectors are B-Xenon.
I needed a magnifying glass to see the solenoids hidden inside them.

Ask for freight cost, ask for a good discount, ask if they can fix a RHD shield if it is a LHD projector.
Ask for a detailed list of every item included in the kit. Brand, model and dimensions/specs.

 

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