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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:11 pm 
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I'm not going to bother with fiddling with my current setup ... I'll just get the HID projectors and OEM HID kit and get that installed first.

MAVS19 ... with projectors .. I was thinking of using them for my highbeam inserts ... but without the internal shield ... essence having them as a projector spotlight (if it will work) ... and use an aftermarket HID kit for the spot light section (the kit that turns on and off immediately ... no warm up/glow down) ... I think the cheaper kits are like this from memory.

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:13 pm 
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I'm not going to bother with fiddling with my current setup ... I'll just get the HID projectors and OEM HID kit and get that installed first.

MAVS19 ... with projectors .. I was thinking of using them for my highbeam inserts ... but without the internal shield ... essence having them as a projector spotlight (if it will work) ... and use an aftermarket HID kit for the spot light section (the kit that turns on and off immediately ... no warm up/glow down) ... I think the cheaper kits are like this from memory.

Any thoughts.


I get the part about you wanting to retrofit the projectors in the Hi beam reflectors. But could you elaborate a bit more about the other bit?

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:50 pm 
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I'm not going to bother with fiddling with my current setup ... I'll just get the HID projectors and OEM HID kit and get that installed first.

MAVS19 ... with projectors .. I was thinking of using them for my highbeam inserts ... but without the internal shield ... essence having them as a projector spotlight (if it will work) ... and use an aftermarket HID kit for the spot light section (the kit that turns on and off immediately ... no warm up/glow down) ... I think the cheaper kits are like this from memory.

Any thoughts.


I get the part about you wanting to retrofit the projectors in the Hi beam reflectors. But could you elaborate a bit more about the other bit?


Well seeing as Projectors have a shield to produce a flat-top beam ... I want to remove this shield so the projector becomes a high-beam/spot light (without a defined beam ... ie: just spread the high beam everywhere).

Also I think there are some retrofit aftermarket HID systems that don't have a warm-up/turn-off delay as well (suiting a high beam insert application).

What do you think.

Mind you though ... will be using an OEM kit for the outer low/high beam light for everyday/night low-beam usage.

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:15 pm 
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OK, now I see what you mean.

Unfortunately Xenon bulb are in no way meant to be turned on and off too often.
Doing so will definitely damage the bulb and will "blow" it.

You could remove the shield and use the projector as a Hi beam projector. Both Xenon and Bi-Xenon projectors are a Hi beam projector from the start. It is only the shield that makes the difference.

However, the new bulbs that have just been released which are called D4S, D4R and D4C are brighter and faster.
But they still need a so called warm up period although it is somewhat shorter than in the cases of both D2S and D2R.
The warm up period I a good and proper Xenon bulb I very short and in most cases not noticeable at all. However some of the after market bulbs that are of lesser standards and quality have a noticeable delay in ignition time.
That is one of the reasons I always recommend buying good quality parts, i.e. Philips or Osram etc.

Just remember what I mentioned earlier: Xenon bulbs do not like being turned on/off too often.

If you are planing to use the projector as Hi beam only, I would suggest then that you try to find a ballast with 50W instead of 35W, and make sure the bulb you are buying are definitely D2S or D4S (the one without the ring). D2S emits more light.

By the way if you only after Hi beam why go through the hassle of retrofitting a projector at all.
Just use your after market HID kit in your Hi beam reflectors. That would do the job perfectly with no extra cost involved.

Regarding the outer reflectors, if you go back to the OEM set up form what you got now, not only will you be shocked you will probably regret it later.
Specially now that you say that you live out of town.

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:24 pm 
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Regarding the outer reflectors, if you go back to the OEM set up form what you got now, not only will you be shocked you will probably regret it later.
Specially now that you say that you live out of town.


What i meant by going to OEM was going to an OEM HID setup for the outers ... not going back to my Halogen OEM.

I want to make all my lights (low and high) HID ... I may as well not bother with projectors in the high beam insert section .... and just leave it a reflector style system.

Then again I will be adding Lightforce 240s to the front of the ute .... they should suffice for highbeam usage ... hee hee

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:51 pm 
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What i meant by going to OEM was going to an OEM HID setup for the outers ... not going back to my Halogen OEM.

I want to make all my lights (low and high) HID ... I may as well not bother with projectors in the high beam insert section .... and just leave it a reflector style system.

Then again I will be adding Lightforce 240s to the front of the ute .... they should suffice for highbeam usage ... hee hee


Well if you are after something special here is the best available in the market.
I have been told that you can see the lights from a satellite. Now that's what I call a real set of Hi beam projectors.
They will put your Lightforce 240 to a shame.

 

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:12 pm 
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:09 pm 
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road legal?

:lol:


If you change to a set of stronger shockies and you can get a big enough power generator to manage the juice needed to run them and you make sure to counter balance the weight of the projectors in front by putting the generator in the back.
You could always apply for dispensation or special permit.
Don’t forget that you may be asked to upgrade your brakes too.

You NEVER know what you could get away with if you fill in the proper paperwork
:) :D :lol:

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:53 am 
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What i meant by going to OEM was going to an OEM HID setup for the outers ... not going back to my Halogen OEM.

I want to make all my lights (low and high) HID ... I may as well not bother with projectors in the high beam insert section .... and just leave it a reflector style system.

Then again I will be adding Lightforce 240s to the front of the ute .... they should suffice for highbeam usage ... hee hee


Well if you are after something special here is the best available in the market.
I have been told that you can see the lights from a satellite. Now that's what I call a real set of Hi beam projectors.
They will put your Lightforce 240 to a shame.


Hahahaha ... depends how big they are???
Might be able to mount them in the back of the ute and use than as bastard lights ... LOL

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:53 pm 
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This is to all the people on the so called "will send pics soon" bandwagon.

Today is the last day for sending in your pictures.

From tomorrow, I will be only spending time to study the pics I have already received to give individual advise on how to fix the problem.
May I also say, that the interest and response from 2 other forums has been far greater.

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:28 pm 
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Mine still haven't arrived :( I bought them locally but apparently they were out of stock so are being shipping from O/S...:roll:

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:32 am 
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Well finally nearly 6 months after starting this topic I've finally installed my HIDs!

I fitted new aftermarket headlights and also painted the reflector surrounds black. I nearly cried when I found that the H1 HIDs didn't fit into my new headlights. Fortunately the centre piece the bulb goes into is only held in place with 3 screws and a quick hit with the dremel bored the whole out nicely and it was happy days. I haven't adjusted the aim yet but after a quick drive tonight the light output is great! All the signs, markings and reflectors on the road look like they're actively emmitting light rather than reflecting it :)
The drivers side seems to give a good spread, but the passenger side has a fairly tight spot not too far in front of the car and then a softer light all around it. There's also other light and dark patches throughout the lit area. Is this normal ? I suppose it probably just needs adjusting properly.

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Overall I'm very happy :D

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:42 am 
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Sweet i cant wait to get mine although i'll be going for a philips xen hid kit be interesting to see the light spread in the EL XR front splitter since they reduced the light output a fair whack

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:16 pm 
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LED parkers :)

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HIDs :D

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that bright spot on the passenger side is the one I was talking about above... :?

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:28 pm 
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i take it due to how bright the HIDs are u have them aimed quite low the above pics shows the light spread doesnt really do much down the road but in front of the car on the road is really intense..looks awesome

 

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