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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:58 pm 
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Hey get EFd I got one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUPER-8000K-HID- ... dZViewItem

I would recomend the 6000k ones tho and there cheaper too..

Pics of mine:
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:08 pm 
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more..

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:37 pm 
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Theres a nice one in my gallery (taken when its still pretty light)

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:31 am 
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Just gotta get ya one on a wall now i think.. They look alot more bluey in real life
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:22 am 
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so guys...

after 21 pages of discussion, which HID kit would you recommend to us people who want a beautiful white and bright headlight setup?

phillips? osram? ebay? etc etc
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:16 am 
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Just gotta get ya one on a wall now i think.. They look alot more bluey in real life
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light output looks nice quite even too ...ill wait for mavs19 reply :P ...take it thats the low beam setting

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:39 pm 
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SIM wrote:
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Do you have access to a better camera?
I need to see how it looks inside and also if you could take pics of the beam pattern or as some call is "spread" on a much wider and more even ground.
I need to see all of the spread. Plus how it looks on the wall.
So far there are a few minor cold spots I can see both on the ground and in the pics of the beam reflection inside the assy with lights on. But can’t see the hot spots since the pics are not really clear.
It is going to be much easier to tell you the final results once I see better pics.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:47 pm 
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Ryan0001 wrote:
so guys...

after 21 pages of discussion, which HID kit would you recommend to us people who want a beautiful white and bright headlight setup?

phillips? osram? ebay? etc etc


Obviously I would recommend better quality products, although being more expensive.
Then of course it depends on your budget.
But most importantly, it is how much you value your safety and that of others on the road.

As you know some of the major OEM have set up shop in China etc. to access cheaper labour and as we all know these companies market the same product under a different name for much cheaper prices.
Then you have a very good quality at a much cheaper price.

The trick is where to find them.

Anything used by OEM.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:50 pm 
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[quote="SIM"]Hey get EFd I got one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUPER-8000K-HID- ... dZViewItem

I would recomend the 6000k ones tho and there cheaper too..

Y do u say that apart from that they r brighter?
I kind of like the blueyness anyway.

Also just to add they look like H3 low beams,dont the falcons have H1 low beams?

Great pics tho.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:45 pm 
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Hey get EFd I got one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUPER-8000K-HID- ... dZViewItem

I would recomend the 6000k ones tho and there cheaper too..

Y do u say that apart from that they r brighter?
I kind of like the blueyness anyway.

Also just to add they look like H3 low beams,dont the falcons have H1 low beams?

Great pics tho.


On the 8000/6000K comment - the 8000K sound bigger and better but the kelvin rating once over the 5000K mark the light output spectrum will start to turn blue and altho it looks better some find then white (since white is the brightest) being darker your wont get as impressive result....brighter light equals further beam spread both straight and to the sides and its clearer to see in.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:10 pm 
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Hi all,
For the umpteenth time:

Many people believe that the higher the colour temperature the brighter the lamp.

This is TOTALL WRONG.

The colour temperature is purely a scale to measure the colour of the light output.
It is a reference purely for colour and could equally be called White, Green or Blue.

If you want lighting performance then the 4300 -5000K HID lamps are the best.

On the other hand, in most people’s opinion 7000K has the best and most attractive colour output (Bluish).

The international unit measuring brightness of light is called luminous flux or Lumen (quality of lights).
For example, a dinner candle produces about 12 lumens and a standard 60-watt incandescent bulb produces 830 lumens. The higher the number is, the brighter the light is.

And for the last time:

A 4300K bulb has 3250 Lumen, BUT
A 8000K has only 2800 Lumen AND
A 10000K has 2300 Lumen.

The reality is the higher up the Kelnin scale the lamps are the LESS BRIGHTER THEY BACOME.

So, one more time: The HIGHER UP the Kelvin Scale you go the LESS BRIGHTER light you got.
Less Brighter means DARKER.

Ryan0001, now you may understand why it has taked 21 pages.......

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:44 pm 
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Big kev 8000k is really blue hey.. even through my headlight lenses where nothing came out any where near blue. If i could wind back time id buy 6000k, but like i said before i got them i only got 8000k because i didnt think they'd be as good as they say like half the globes i've bought over the years. But there better than what they say.. :) awesome to drive with

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:00 pm 
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more pics. I can get a kodak camera, that one's olympus. or maybe im just not getting the right shots? Ill try facing headlights into the sun.

Its weird how the blue dosent show up much on pics

As you can see in the third pic along there is a heat sheild at the bottom and the stock one at the top in the assy

Image - - Image - - Image

In Sun:
Drivers Side: - - -- -- - - - - - - - - - Passenger Side:
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:04 pm 
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more pics. I can get a kodak camera, that one's olympus. or maybe im just not getting the right shots? Ill try facing headlights into the sun.

Its weird how the blue dosent show up much on pics

As you can see in the third pic along there is a heat sheild at the bottom and the stock one at the top in the assy


OK.
Pic on the wall. Here is how the beam pattern in front of a wall same distance as you have in your pics look like from a same vehicle as yours with HID aftermarket kit.

Was the shield part of the headlight assy or part of the bulb?

Is your main bulb H4? If so is the Xenon bulb a so called Bi-Xenon ? (2 bulbs , one Xenon and one Halogen on one base) or?.

The shield is where we need to do some alterations.
However you are not far off the mark.

Also I notice that your lens is very milky which is a major contributor to the haziness and the glare your pics show.
Which is also a major factor in the outcome of the pics you take.
However, if you happen to have a High Resolution camera with either an UV and Skylight filter on the lens you can cut through the haziness and milkiness and manage to get a clear pic.

The other option is if you got a pic of the shield outside on on it's own, which would be also acceptable.
Like in the case of Hyena we need to reshape the shield to get a better cutoff line.
Which you presently don’t have much of. Compare the pics I sent with the one you sent from the pattern on the wall.
Yours look like if you got a Hi beam pattern. But not a full Hi beam.

 

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:39 pm 
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there is a sheild buit in to the H4 base HID globe that wen fitted to the headlight assy is on the bottom side of the assy. there is already a heat sheild which covers the top of the assy (this is the stock one which all fairmont assy come with i gather)

There just straight Low beam H4s to.

Heres a crappy pic of an old sheild built into fairmont headlamp assys:
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And heres another taken tonyt infront of a yellow rolla door thingo (my hid's are not green) I think the passenger side is pretty nice and close as u said im just wondering cause the drivers side has had 90w halogen low's in it which could have done damage to the reflector
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Im starting to get flashes from people but i think its just cause there looking at them to much hehe cause there not high or anything. I will try get a dull bit of box or something and take shots of each like those u posted mavs

 

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