I will cover each at a time tonight to see where that hunk of glare is coming from

I would like to personally thank MAVS19 for his brilliant job in trying to educate people of how to correctly install these lights as to avoid giving on-comming traffic the s**t.

Good onya mate, good to see somone putting in some time and effort in making them safe.

Cheers.

yeah damn straight Mavs is the man!... The only man that seems to know what he's talkin about when it comes to getting the best out of your headlight sys

Ok mavs here's the passenger side with HID fitted

 

 

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Thanks for your kind comments.

Like you, I have also seen a lot of careless drivers on the roads who are driving around with HID kits installed, blinding every one else.
Probably they don't even know that they are placing others in danger.
To them: it look cool and it has got a nice colour.

It is pity not every person who has installed a HID kit gets to read this thread.
Hope my advise can help and save someone from having an accident.

Thank you also for your kind comments.

OK, here a few more question for you:

1- Did you have the original shield in or out, when you took the pics you posted earlier?
2- Looking at the passenger side reflector, it also looks burnt. See pic.
3- How clear is the lens? Any scratches on the inside after all the rubbings etc.
4- Did you find out which side was reflecting the glare?

 

 

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OK, timer for a bit of basic info about HID Xenon bulbs.

Presently, these are the different types of HID bulbs available for use in the Automotive industry:
D1S, D1R, D2S, D2R, D4S and D4R.

S version is without shield and used normally in conjunction with Reflectors.
R version has a shield just under and on the side of the arc and is used mainly in conjunction with Projectors.

S version has:
3200 Lumen
4250K

R version has:
2800Lumen
4150K

The length from the base to light centre of the arc is: 27,1 +/- 0.15mm
Diameter of the bulb is: 9.1mm
Total free length needed for use in a shield is: 60.00mm
Arc length is: 4.2mm
Arc diameter is: 1.1mm
Material used in the bulb is: UV stop quartz
The outer jacket of the bulb prevents transmission of harmful UV. Therefore plastic lens can be used in conjunction with HID system.
Max operating Temperature of the bulb is 700°C.
Max Temperature at the base/socket is 240°C.
Max Temperature at the pinch is 400°C.
Power 35W.
Voltage 85.
Ignition Voltage 23kV.
Starting current is 26A.
Running current is 2-4A.
Run-up time is 1.3s.
75% of lumen is maintained for 1500 Hours.
Pressure inside the lamp cold state is 7bar.
Pressure inside the lamp hot state is 100bar.

Safety UV glasses and gloves are to be worn when working with HID bulbs.

Defective bulbs are to be disposed of a Special Waste.

 

 

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Ok yeah i made a boo boo, i had taken the sheild out of that one to see what it would do ages ago when i had halogens in..

I put a new one in now and that glare seems to be better.. it was the passenger side... When you spotted it, it jogged my memory of it not having one.

That pic was taken as the lens is... no polishing or wiping of anything.

So whats the next step? that beam pattern on the passenger side looks really good now

OK, let's work on the passenger side, although driver side is the one that blinds on coming traffic most.

If you have installed the original shield back in, take a pic in front of a big wall, big enough so we can see all the light emitted from that headlight assy in all directions. Cover the other side so no light is mixed.
Distance from the wall same as before.
Then also a pic of just passenger sides beam pattern on the road. All of it.
This time go somewhere wide and long enough so we can see the entire beam pattern both sideways and in length.
Find a shopping centre close to you and at the back of one of the big chains i.e. K-mart, Big W or Target etc. you will find their delivery area. There you will find a wall big enough for what we have in mind and also a flat and level parking area big enough for the entire beam pattern.

Then with the lights on, take a pic of the light emitted from only the passenger reflector, head-on. Use a tripod or something so you can make sure that the centre of your camera lens is head-on with the centre of the reflector.

By the way make sure that you use the correct original shield in the right reflector.
So, you use the Left shield in the Left and Right in the Right reflector.
If you use the wrong one you will get a funny looking beam pattern.

If the result is good enough, well then you are finished.
Once we have fixed passenger side it is then a matter of copying what was done to the driver side with some minor fixes and adjustments.

If however the result is not acceptable we need to start working on reshaping the shields.

Think i need a new drivers side reflector.....

 

 

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You sure do.

Next time try not to use a shiny surface to take pics on light reflection.
It looks like Passenger side is starting to look better.

Did you have the original shields in when you took these pics?

No pics of the beam pattern on a wide enough piece of road in front of the vehicle….
The sooner you take proper pics of what I have asked for, the sooner we can get down to the business on fixing the problem.

By the way some of you guys may have picked up the fact form the info I posted on HID Bulbs that using HID system will fix the problem of the lens going yellowish since the harmful UV emitted from Halogen is almost eliminated in HID bulbs due to the type of UV stop quartz used in the manufacturing of the bulb.
Unfortunately, some of our Chinese manufacturers do not or can not use UV stop quartz in the manufacturing of their bulbs. Either they don't have the facility or it is a cost saving issue.
Making some of these aftermarket bulbs highly dangerous.

I was at a mates place today and his dad has an 94 fairlane and it has projectors in the headlights.I dont know if this helps anyone, but i thought i would mention it.

CHEERS

What is the reason for posting this info?

Is it to see if they can be used in a HID retrofit or???

Yeah maybe cutting a hole in the reflector and putting it in?

I see you want to retrofit that projector into your reflector.
It could work.

Couple of points to think about before taking that step.
Do you know if they are used as Lo or Hi beam projectors in Ford Fairlane -94?

If they are used for Lo beam, you need to find out what type of Halogen bulb they use.
Then it is a simple matter of either getting same base HID bulbs or rebasing the ones you already got.
The shied inside the projector may also need to be reshaped.
Shields inside projectors are usually very easy to reshape.Pic 1.

If they use the projectors as Hi beam then usually there are no shields in them or if there is one it has a very strange looking opening cut in middle of the shield.
To make a shield so you can use a Hi beam projector as Lo beam is a case of Testing, testing…. But it is not that difficult. Pic 2.

Once you have found out answer to the above, then it is a matter of finding a pair which I don't think is going to be that difficult.

The size of the lens and the diameter and shape of the reflector is also very important to find out .

 

 

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