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 Post subject: Putting New Wheels On
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:13 pm 
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I'm just about to purchase some new wheels.

When I take off the old wheels and put on the new ones do I need to tighten it to 20Nm?

Is this a strict torque setting? As I see alot of wheel changing tutorials do not even mention the 20Nm torque setting.

 

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:17 pm 
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just use a bit of elbow grease and tighten the f**k out of them. not as in jump on them or make them so they will never come off again though, just.... fairly tight. probably a fair bit more than 20nm lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: Putting New Wheels On
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:18 pm 
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i never have i just do them up with a cracker bar and socket untill their tight and in a few days i go around and re check them.

but it comes down to personal choice of what you want to do.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Putting New Wheels On
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:21 pm 
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oh, and remember the star pattern!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Putting New Wheels On
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:33 pm 
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Isnt recommended like 120nm? 20nm is like finger tight...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Putting New Wheels On
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:53 pm 
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krisisdog wrote:
Isnt recommended like 120nm? 20nm is like finger tight...


The manual for my falcon says 20Nm

 

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:01 am 
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I thought I heard something about 90nm, but not that I'd ever do so, i just work it round in the star pattern with my ratchet then change to the breaker thing that comes with the car, and get it to where i roughly give it a reasonable kick and it wont move.

But as has been said, it's not vital just do them up fair tight, and if your worried, what we all should probably do is check it a few days later, but sadly probably next to nobody(including me) does.

By the way what the tool that they supply us with in the boot, I used to think it was called a tyre iron, but from what i understood, that's more like a tyre lever and not this...
I'm assuming it has a proper name, but not sure what.

Oh the only other thing to be aware of is if you've got mags your using looknuts with, other than not to lose them, is be careful you may want to use the torge wrench on them, or atleast not rattle gun them on, as you can damage them.

 

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:20 am 
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falcon1999 wrote:
krisisdog wrote:
Isnt recommended like 120nm? 20nm is like finger tight...


The manual for my falcon says 20Nm




Like I said, you can do yours to 20nm if you want, but it will just fall off.

Workshop Manual wrote:
Wheel Nut .................................... 150nm

 

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 Post subject: Re: Putting New Wheels On
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:35 am 
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im using slimline "tuner" nuts on my wheels, and they are easy to strip as they use a socket piece in the middle of them, as opposed to sliding a socket over the outside

ive been experimenting with torque settings with what will stay tight and not work its way loose. At 70nm a few had lost their torque setting, so i tried 80nm and all good so far

so i would recomend something like 90nm if you have decent wheel nuts. Cheap chinese wheel nuts will need a bit more as sometimes the thread is drilled & tapped on a slight angle which means the bevelled face doesnt make proper contact with the wheel

as for the manual, yeah i found it said 150nm as well, which is f**k crazy...... you would be guaranteed to damage the studs at that setting...... not even 4 wheel drives are done up that tight i dont think
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:50 am 
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Get yourself a good breaker bar and socket (if not, the standard tyre iron will be alright) and do them up fairly tight as above but dont overtight them whatever you do, could start stripping thread off the studs or even snapping them. Have seen my fair share of wheel nuts done up too tight and damaged studs while working at a wheels/tyres place, wouldnt be so sure about actual torque settings as we used to do them up with the rattle gun until they were tight then torque them up another quarter turn or so with a breaker bar to make sure.

 

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:06 pm 
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torquing wheel nuts correctly & in sequence can prevent rotors from warping.

most wheel shops are pure lazy and give no F**k about the customers car, hence using rattle guns. Even rattle guns with torque bits are unreliable for to use for final torque settings
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:32 pm 
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Yeh, I think 150nm's is too high myself, but I was just trying to prove the point that 20nm is blatantly wrong and highly/stupidly dangerous.

 

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 4:24 pm 
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krisisdog wrote:
Yeh, I think 150nm's is too high myself, but I was just trying to prove the point that 20nm is blatantly wrong and highly/stupidly dangerous.

Definately agree on that, you wouldnt want to bolt up new wheels and have them come loose and fall off because they were not done up tight enough, unless of course you plan on doing something like THIS :lol:

 

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:16 pm 
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100nm in a star pattern. possibly go to 120nm if youd like.
just make sure all the nuts are evenly done up.
but yeah, where ever you read 20nm, it is a misprint or you bought a dodgy ebay manual from back st's of bangkok
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100nm in a star pattern. possibly go to 120nm if youd like.
just make sure all the nuts are evenly done up.
but yeah, where ever you read 20nm, it is a misprint or you bought a dodgy ebay manual from back st's of bangkok
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