Hey guys/girls,

Just wondering, is it possible to install a 5 point harness into a EF falcon without having to remove the rear seats or installing a rollcage?

If so, how can this be done?

Thanks

plan on hitting a brick wall?

No i am planning on doing up my car for street but also some track work

brace across from b pillar to b pillar? would look ok too if done neat i recon. then just lugs welded onto a good bit of the floor for the other mounts.

mmmmmmmm sounds a bit too complicated me thinks.

I think i will have to do up another car for track days

Thanks

eaiser than doing up a whole other car lol, not sure on the laws, i know most harness' would be race aproved but not sure about on the roads:S

idk on brand or anything but ive seen a harness that used the mounts for a baby seat in the back and went over your chest.

your parcel shelf is only glued in, a decent shove and the shelf will dislodge.

if you insist on going down this route, without putting a cage in, I would be mounting a bar between the 2 rear shock towers and welding on the required mount fittings. you will need to run with the rear seat folded down when on a circuit though. also you can use the rear seat bolts to mount the side straps to then just fix a solid mount in for the crotch strap.

all harnesses are illegal for road use, they are FIA approved not ADR approved. 2 very different things and one does not superceed the other. if your car is on the road, it has to comply with ADR's, on the track, depending on what you are doing you need to adhere to FIA's regs.

One of the reasons harnesses that hold the shoulders are illegal on the road is they restrict movement that is needed to complete required movements like checking blind spots. There are a whole raft of reasons, but you get my drift.

Plus using a harness in a daily driver is a PITA. I had a harness in my XT, but it sat on the floor behind the seat 99% of the time, and I just used the lap/sash belt mostly. I really only used the harness at the drags, or when feeling like having fun/being silly/could be bothererd with it.