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 Post subject: Re: EF Fairmont Cluster
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:01 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: EF Fairmont Cluster
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:29 am 
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Ben, don't forget VSS in, and VSS out - VSS out goes to the ECU, and will also go to the EF/EL cruise when it's fitted.

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The LCD is not lighting up at all yet. I believe this is due to the LCD Dimmer wires not being connect to anything at all. I will try and connect the normal park light wire to the postive side and connect the earth side to ground.
I'm betting it's a fairmont cluster - see http://www.fordmods.com/forums/documents.php?doc=14 "Adding the LCD dimming resistor". Pin 16 RHS plug then goes to the headlight switch, or splice it into the LCD dimmer line from your TC. Pin 17 RHS plug is ign 12v.

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I believe the EF/EL cars use a different oil pressure sender to the EA/EB/ED cars. Ford have different part numbers for them. I will try to grab one from the wreckers and see if it resolves the issue.
As I say, the books give different figs - I'm suspecting an EF/EL sender has an 94DA-xxx number, and EA-ED probably 87DA or 90DA, etc.

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It is also worth noting that the EF/EL Tacho does not use the same source wire as the EB. The EB gets the signal from the TFI module (Pink or Pink/Blue Wire) and the EF/EL gets the signal from the wire going to the TFI module from the ECU (Yellow/Green wire - Pin 36).
Has this fixed the issue you were having ??

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF Fairmont Cluster
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:05 am 
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Ben, don't forget VSS in, and VSS out - VSS out goes to the ECU, and will also go to the EF/EL cruise when it's fitted.


I have the VSS coming in to the Cluster, but have decided not to run it to the ECU as the ECU is receiving the VSS directly.


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I'm betting it's a fairmont cluster - see http://www.fordmods.com/forums/documents.php?doc=14 "Adding the LCD dimming resistor". Pin 16 RHS plug then goes to the headlight switch, or splice it into the LCD dimmer line from your TC. Pin 17 RHS plug is ign 12v.


Correct it is a fairmont cluster. I have the resistor here and will add this in. However the doco states that the LCD should light up without the Park lights on, and you add the resistor for the LCD to work with the Park lights on. As my car has no function for LCD dimming at all, I believe I will need to connect Pin 17 RHS (LCD Positive Illumination) to the Park lights wire and Pin 16 RHS (LCD Negative Illumination) to earth. Opinions?

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I believe the EF/EL cars use a different oil pressure sender to the EA/EB/ED cars. Ford have different part numbers for them. I will try to grab one from the wreckers and see if it resolves the issue.
As I say, the books give different figs - I'm suspecting an EF/EL sender has an 94DA-xxx number, and EA-ED probably 87DA or 90DA, etc.


Going to the Wreckers soon, so will let you know.

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]It is also worth noting that the EF/EL Tacho does not use the same source wire as the EB. The EB gets the signal from the TFI module (Pink or Pink/Blue Wire) and the EF/EL gets the signal from the wire going to the TFI module from the ECU (Yellow/Green wire - Pin 36).
Has this fixed the issue you were having ??


Yes, many Thanks Snap0964. The tacho needle no longer shakes. It is as solid as a rock now.

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:42 am 
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sweeeet .
looking good..
will you have this fitted on the cruise on saturday?


ps..benj ive been working on the fuel door mod you were talking about.
and i have promising results..
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:11 pm 
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sweeeet .
looking good..
will you have this fitted on the cruise on saturday?


ps..benj ive been working on the fuel door mod you were talking about.
and i have promising results..


It is in now, and have been driving around with it in all day. I want to secure it a bit more, but it should be in for the cruise on Saturday.

I look forward to seeing how you went with the fuel flap mod.

I got the Oil Pressure Sender from an EF Fairmont this morning. Am waiting for the car to cool down before I try to change it.

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:20 pm 
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f**k ben awsome mod mate. your car is now getting very uniqe now. You know what would set it off...is a ED XR front end :P and i happen to be selling one :)

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:49 pm 
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f**k ben awsome mod mate. your car is now getting very uniqe now. You know what would set it off...is a ED XR front end :P and i happen to be selling one :)


Funny Bugger :lol:

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:45 pm 
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lol, since seeing the comment here about fuel flap mods.. I've been searching for more info..

Where have you detailed your efforts Troyman/BenJ ???
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:52 pm 
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Where have you detailed your efforts Troyman/BenJ ???


Only in our heads and in conversation. If it works out one of us, probably Troyman will post up details.



OK, it seems the Oil Pressure Sender I got off the EF Fairmont is actualy an Oil Pressure Switch. I am quite confused now as to what is what. I will go to ford and ask to see them both so I know WTF I am dealing with. LOL.

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:27 pm 
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I have to know now... what is the fuel flap mod????? :-)
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 Post subject: Re: EF Fairmont Cluster
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:20 pm 
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Funnily enough the other day I was looking at an EA ghia cluster I had, and whether an EF/EL board would fit in it. I'm a bit surprised how good the EF/EL cluster fits on it's own, seeing the EA one I have has a square LHS, but the RHS top is curved.
Actually, there's no reason now why an NF/NL cluster can't be fitted to an EA-ED.

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Correct it is a fairmont cluster. I have the resistor here and will add this in. However the doco states that the LCD should light up without the Park lights on, and you add the resistor for the LCD to work with the Park lights on. As my car has no function for LCD dimming at all, I believe I will need to connect Pin 17 RHS (LCD Positive Illumination) to the Park lights wire and Pin 16 RHS (LCD Negative Illumination) to earth. Opinions?
You'll find the odo will only light up when parkers are on with that configuration.
Pin 17 RHS plug is ign 12v - so odo gets power during ign.
Pin 16 RHS plug this can splice to the blue/red line, LHS plug pin 4 (try this with a temp jumper lead first).
The resistor is used as a path to earth when parkers are on, as the odo globe has voltage both sides - hence why the odo goes out when parkers are on.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:23 pm 
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Sorry if this have been covered but why is the oil pressure gauge reading full bore? :o

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:15 pm 
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Sorry if this have been covered but why is the oil pressure gauge reading full bore? :o


has the oil pressure switch still in it, so it only reads as on or off. Needs an oil pressure sender to control the gauge correctly.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:37 pm 
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Where have you detailed your efforts Troyman/BenJ ???


Only in our heads and in conversation. If it works out one of us, probably Troyman will post up details.




ive made a ef fuel door fit the ea. as ea/ed have a finger hole and ef/el doesnt.. i will post something up soon i just dont want to crowd benj's interior topic with a fuel door thread..
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