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 Post subject: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:24 pm 
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Hi Guys,

Wanting to know the pinouts for the rear wiper button as found on EF / EL station wagons.

*looks at snap0964* :P

Does it use a negative trigger to activate the wiper / rear sprayer ?

Have looked through a bit of the EF / EL workshop manual, but cannot find - goo chance I missed a schematic or something :oops:

Any help appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:02 pm 
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Looking at the wiring plug from behind where the wires go in and the release tab is on the top in the centre.

Pin 1 will be top left, and Pin 5 will be directly underneath.

Pin 1 Brown - Park Lights
Pin 2 Blue Red - Illumination Pwr
Pin 3 Green - Wiper On - 12v+
Pin 4 Black - Earth
Pin 5 Green - Washer - 12v+ - Momentary

For the rear washer, it directly activates the washer, and sends a signal the Rear Wiper ECU, which then activates the wiper.

Hope that helps.

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:56 pm 
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Thanks BenJ - so it's not a negative trigger when the button is depressed / activated.

Will do some more thinking how I can set it up :)

Thanks again for the info :)

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:14 am 
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So what are you trying to achieve Steve ??

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:01 am 
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snap0964 wrote:
So what are you trying to achieve Steve ??


Hi Ray,

I knew you'd stumble on to this soon enough :wink:

I need a switch that when activated, grounds to complete the circuit. I'd prefer using a factory switch and the only one I can think of using is the rear wiper switch - I guess I could just ground pin 5 and I'd be right :idea:

Unless there are other factory switches that I am forgetting :oops:

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When you select the switch to turn on the rear wipers, all it does is allow the positive line and the earth line to bridge, and therefore complete the circuit.

Used in conjunction with a relay, you can make it do what ever you want it to.

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:28 am 
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Yeah didn't really want to use a relay for the sake of more wiring etc - but will probably do that in the end :)

Thanks for the info !

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When you select the switch to turn on the rear wipers, all it does is allow the positive line and the earth line to bridge, and therefore complete the circuit.

Used in conjunction with a relay, you can make it do what ever you want it to.

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The switch won't be rated for any real current use anyway, so you would need to use a relay just to ensure the switch didn't melt.

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:41 am 
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I figured as much - the intended application is only low current though, so it would be fine.

BenJ wrote:
The switch won't be rated for any real current use anyway, so you would need to use a relay just to ensure the switch didn't melt.

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Again, what are you trying to do ??

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
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Hi Ray,

It's for a low / high boost switch. Low boost = not grounded. High boost = grounded.

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Again, what are you trying to do ??

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
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I suppose you could use a column shift auto Economy switch (the caption could be a pisstake for boost). Those switches are pretty much the same as the power antenna switch - caption is different of course, pinouts rearranged different on the back.
You could use the foglight caption in the cluster to come on for high boost.
You'll then need the bezel (fairmont wagon/GLI column shift), or make it (I made mine).
The plug won't be present in the wiring harness, so you'll need to wire it all up (not hard).
I think the switch will look okay in the middle - I don't think it's angle should look too far out of place.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
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You've hit the nail on the head Ray - I did actually think about the 'ECONOMY' switch that they used in the XH utes...but finding one in cappucino :wink:

Another reason I thought of just going with the wiper button is because it doesn't require an angled face for it to blend in with the bezel etc.

I already have the 3-hole bezel from Fairmont wagon (might have to spray cappucino!). I like the idea of using the foglight caption in the cluster :)

Hmm, so much to think about :P

snap0964 wrote:
I suppose you could use a column shift auto Economy switch (the caption could be a pisstake for boost). Those switches are pretty much the same as the power antenna switch - caption is different of course, pinouts rearranged different on the back.
You could use the foglight caption in the cluster to come on for high boost.
You'll then need the bezel (fairmont wagon/GLI column shift), or make it (I made mine).
The plug won't be present in the wiring harness, so you'll need to wire it all up (not hard).
I think the switch will look okay in the middle - I don't think it's angle should look too far out of place.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:16 pm 
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Yeah, I forgot the EL's will have the buttons in the much loved Cappa colour.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF / EL Station Wagon Rear Wiper Button Pinouts...
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:27 pm 
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You could use an aerial button too.

I need the pinouts for an aerial switch?

I want to wire it to cut the aerial signal to the BEM when off, and let the signal though when on. I have a Pioneer headunit, and they aren't wired with proper aerial control.
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